tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3272054900018746845.post5020486107160504836..comments2024-01-01T17:21:52.555+00:00Comments on Is the BBC biased?: Two birds with one stoneCraighttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08741318067991857821noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3272054900018746845.post-56569654379218857762019-05-10T17:15:54.497+01:002019-05-10T17:15:54.497+01:00Yesterday I forgot Andrew Neil was on Politics Liv...Yesterday I forgot Andrew Neil was on Politics Live so I missed some of the excitement. When I did tune in, there was Hissing Gavin Esler having a shouting match with the man sitting next to him - I don't know who he was, as the BBC doesn't believe in informing us - accusing him of lying. Andrew Neil let them run on. How he enjoyed it! Then he was duly questioned about Village Idiots and duly flapped and floundered. The man is not impressive. At one point he said he admired the BBC, adding that he'd worked for it for many years. It felt as if it could have been in another life long ago and far away. If you didn't know his career, you might come away thinking he was some sort of outside observer.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3272054900018746845.post-40284837815102095002019-05-10T15:13:24.370+01:002019-05-10T15:13:24.370+01:00Jon Gaunt asked where are all Danny's mates to...Jon Gaunt asked where are all Danny's mates to defend him ?<br />like Jonathon Ross, and Chris Evans etc.<br /><a href="https://www.jongaunt.com/articles/danny-baker-is-not-a-racist-you-muppets" rel="nofollow">https://www.jongaunt.com/articles/danny-baker-is-not-a-racist-you-muppets</a><br /><br />To me the whole thing is just a stupid playground pile on thing <br />We should save our outrage for the real rapists.stewgreenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10223073927227101097noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3272054900018746845.post-37311514762686953882019-05-10T10:35:18.162+01:002019-05-10T10:35:18.162+01:00... Esler thought he could bring his media persona...... Esler thought he could bring his media persona, based on a preening ethical self-regard, into politics and be applauded for his presumption ...<br /><br />Agreed. There is a misconception amongst the Simpsons. Eastons and now Eslers of this world that they are well-respected popular and that the electorate will hang onto their every word. Plaudits received from their adoring fans within the BBC simply do not transfer readily to those outside that cosseted world - and in Esler's case, he has been dumbfounded in his realisation of the simple matter of fact.Arthur Trofhttp://otboae.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3272054900018746845.post-23284980772258660102019-05-10T10:31:28.758+01:002019-05-10T10:31:28.758+01:00Dara, professional Irishman and Beeboidist, sticks...Dara, professional Irishman and Beeboidist, sticks up for fellow Beebsnaffler Danny and gets a twitter lashing for his pains...<br /><br />https://twitter.com/daraobriain/status/1126450953874546689<br /><br />:) It's enjoyable seeing the PC pack tear each other apart. <br /><br />Dara has never shown any forgiving mercy to anyone not of the PC Left-Liberal consensus who offended against the peeceearchy. Why should we show mercy to his mates? <br /><br />Monkey Brainsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3272054900018746845.post-71818390406125807152019-05-10T10:11:10.402+01:002019-05-10T10:11:10.402+01:00Indeed - a dose of his own medicine and a lesson i...Indeed - a dose of his own medicine and a lesson in the ways of the world for him. <br /><br />Being a politician is not easy. We are very hypocritical about them. We expect them to do our dirty work for us (making all those difficult ethical and resource allocation decisions on our behalf) but we criticise them for gettting dirty in the process. We hold them to a higher moral standard than we apply to ourselves. We want them to be tough but not uncaring, determined but not robotic, clever but not too clever...It's not surprising most politicians fail our expectations. <br /><br />Esler thought he could bring his media persona, based on a preening ethical self-regard, into politics and be applauded for his presumption. Doesn't work like that! Monkey Brainsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3272054900018746845.post-6246308267027802452019-05-10T09:41:42.073+01:002019-05-10T09:41:42.073+01:00What struck me was the look of indignation on Esle...What struck me was the look of indignation on Esler's face when he was challenged over his Village Idiot expression. He was rattled as his comments were wilfully misinterpreted and words put into his mouth. But this happens every day of the week when views are put forward which do not fit in the the BBC narrative. Esler received a dose of his own medicine.<br /><br />The indignant look was priceless. Esler, now a graduate of the BBC University takes his first steps into the real world and trips at the first hurdle - this wasn't meant to happen.Arthur Trofhttp://otboae.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3272054900018746845.post-23657154984304500562019-05-10T00:51:25.358+01:002019-05-10T00:51:25.358+01:00That's true Stew. But he's not a practised...That's true Stew. But he's not a practised politician. He gave a gift to his political enemies who only have to say "We don't believe that Brexit voters were village idiots. It's shameful you used that phrase." When Esler replies indignantly he didn't say that, you ask him "Do you deny you used the phrase village idiots"...he then has to admit he did etc. It's not pretty but it's politics. <br /><br />People have only be using the same methods that the BBC and PC Left parties use to misrepresent what people say. They've used these methods over the years against anyone they don't like whether it's Keith Joseph, Margaret Thatcher, Norman Tebbit, Nigel Farage, Boris Johnson or Jacob Rees-Mogg.<br /><br />You might be arguing that populists should work to a higher standard. Commendable. I'd be very happy to see reasoned debate but the PC Left won't allow it, so the media battle has to be fought with no mercy shown. <br /><br />Farage was good on Question Time tonight because he was aggressive and confrontational and wouldn't let the PC consensus form against him. He's clearly learned from Trump and added that to his formidable abilities as a speaker and explainer. <br /><br />And let's not forget Esler is defining as "experts" people who are Remainers and who predicted for instance that there would be an immediate recession after a Leave vote, whereas the economy continued to grow comfortably despite the best efforts of the BBC to talk it down. Monkey Brainsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3272054900018746845.post-69061775905233801052019-05-09T22:21:06.094+01:002019-05-09T22:21:06.094+01:00Sorry I refuse to joint in shouting "witch&qu...Sorry I refuse to joint in shouting "witch"<br />Strangely I agree with Esler, people are misrepresenting what he said.<br />..Welcome to politics.<br />He didn't say that "people who voted for Brexit are VIs"<br />He said that the kind of pro Brexit experts who appear in the media are VIs<br />Esler is a fool, but he neither said<br />nor does the DuffPost headline say that<br /><br />I then looked at Esler's tweet<br />Esler's tweet broadens who he accusing of being a Village idiots<br />but he still doesn't call the Brexit Voters village idiotsstewgreenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10223073927227101097noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3272054900018746845.post-4380809031174422982019-05-09T21:49:21.602+01:002019-05-09T21:49:21.602+01:00There is polite but robust debate and then there i...There is polite but robust debate and then there is discourteous ill-tempered haranguing. <br /><br />What a shame Gavin Esler did not display the former, it would have served him better. <br /><br />You can take the man out of the BBC but not the BBC out of the man. Charliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07341313534441507081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3272054900018746845.post-34093287372025056052019-05-09T21:37:21.217+01:002019-05-09T21:37:21.217+01:00Yes šš¼Yes šš¼Charliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07341313534441507081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3272054900018746845.post-42199641040120425492019-05-09T20:50:04.387+01:002019-05-09T20:50:04.387+01:00The village bully perhaps?The village bully perhaps?Monkey Brainsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3272054900018746845.post-15368755243921278002019-05-09T19:46:31.051+01:002019-05-09T19:46:31.051+01:00Esler comes across as a thoroughly unpleasant and ...Esler comes across as a thoroughly unpleasant and nasty person.<br /><br />The scowl, the finger pointing and the aggressive tone all reveal a window into his true self.<br /><br />Without his auto cue and the BBC ābehind the scenesā support he is shown to be just another charmless village idiot. Charliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07341313534441507081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3272054900018746845.post-41766730371404518542019-05-09T16:39:17.868+01:002019-05-09T16:39:17.868+01:00Someone kindly posted the Youtube.
Considering h...Someone kindly posted the Youtube. <br /><br />Considering his behaviour, throwing out terms like 'lie' and jabbing fingers, I would have expected the chair to be a bit more robust. Especially with the muttered confirmation that what he was screaming in denial he said... he said. <br /><br />He is no longer a BBC teflon staffer; he is a (another clearly idiotic) pol. <br /><br />This should kill his career as dead as Baker's. Emmahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11550976834509947355noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3272054900018746845.post-40168314674355091492019-05-09T15:48:51.177+01:002019-05-09T15:48:51.177+01:00Gavin Esler must be miffed that it was Andrew Neil...Gavin Esler must be miffed that it was Andrew Neil in the chair today. Coburn would have given him a much softer time by interrupting promptly if there was any mention of 'village idiots'. His exposure to life outside the cosy BBC brotherhood clearly had him rattled.Arthur Trofhttp://otboae.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3272054900018746845.post-36054174085614248292019-05-09T15:37:27.397+01:002019-05-09T15:37:27.397+01:00It has been a more exciting week than many. Boulto...It has been a more exciting week than many. Boulton, Baddiel and Baker... media veterans all... and twitter ingenues too. Apparently. <br /><br />I am off now to think what is happening here. The week is not over yet. maybe Gavin Esler can claim to not have said things there is footage of him saying? That would be funny. Emmahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11550976834509947355noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3272054900018746845.post-52400197757300736002019-05-09T15:24:26.704+01:002019-05-09T15:24:26.704+01:00I dread to think what Simon McCoy meant by describ...I dread to think what Simon McCoy meant by describing Danny Bakerās Tweet as an insult to Meghan Markleās āracial heritageā. Iām <i>sure</i> I heard him say that (?)<br /><br />It ānever occurred to meā that there were chimpanzees in the Markle family. Does this mean itās not only us you-know-whos that are the descendants of apes and pigs?<br /> <br />Watch out, Simon McCoy! suehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02693686958796849316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3272054900018746845.post-49546456471480260152019-05-09T14:51:32.088+01:002019-05-09T14:51:32.088+01:00Boulton's comments have revealed what many so...Boulton's comments have revealed what many social liberals and Metropolitan elite think about that behaviour. That includes the BBC who wonāt report this episode. <br /><br />They will just give a shrug of their shoulders, saying itās only a minority who do that and not typical. We should make allowances given their culture, cut them some slack and make them welcome. This is all part and parcel of the melting pot that enriches our country.<br /><br />They believe that in a couple of generations that sort of prejudice will have vanished up and down our country, replaced by more genteel British manners and attitudes. <br /><br />They are completely deluded of course and we are sleepwalking into a new sort of hell. <br />Charliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07341313534441507081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3272054900018746845.post-6091019113882268552019-05-09T13:54:28.507+01:002019-05-09T13:54:28.507+01:00So Adam Boulton's defence is that he agrees wi...So Adam Boulton's defence is that he agrees with President Trump that there are no go areas in major cities in Europe? Hmmm...whoddathunkit? The venom with which he references Trump makes me doubt the veracity of that explanation. <br /><br />Also, it carries with it that racist idea that some people from some parts of the world can't be expected to understand or obey our laws. <br /><br />Monkey Brainsnoreply@blogger.com