Showing posts with label Melanie Abbott. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Melanie Abbott. Show all posts

Monday, 3 June 2019

On a day when I’ve turned off the wall-to-wall derogatory remarks about Trump.

On this day etc., as above.


“It’s almost certain who is behind all this anti-semitism against Jeremy... Almost certainly it was the Israeli embassy. “

That’s what Pete Willsman said. Or, to be more precise, that is what the BBC said he said.

One’s first thought (mine) is why on earth is this inarticulate man even on Labour’s NEC? Did people actually elect him?

Furthermore, “.....antisemitism against Jeremy” doesn’t even make sense. Was the antisemitism directed at Jeremy who has suddenly discovered that he himself is a Jew? No, but wouldn’t that at least be a laugh?

Making allowances for the garbled language, we all know what this man meant. But was it antisemitic?

Arguably, the Israeli Embassy has plenty of very good reasons to discredit Jeremy Corbyn, since the Labour Party has promised to bring in all sorts of damaging policies once they’re in power. So, there’s that. 

But once one suggests that the Israeli Embassy is making unfounded accusations of antisemitism solely to 'smear' Jeremy, then that is the kind of ‘gaslighting’ that falls into the IHRA official definition of antisemitism. If this is what Willsman has said, and it seems it is, that puts his remarks into the category of antisemitism.

The BBC’s header conceals multiple offences. For a start, compare it with Sky’s header, which comes straight out and calls Willsman’s remarks “an antisemitic rant.” 
Corbyn ally Peter Willsman suspended after 'antisemitic rant'
The BBC holds back on the value-judgement-laden word ‘antisemitic’ taking a step back and choosing to refer to the aforementioned antisemitic rant as “antisemitism remarks”.

In other words, Sky clearly commits to defining Willsman’s remarks as “antisemitic” whereas the BBC sits on the fence, primly sticking with a pretendedly disinterested description of Willsman’s ‘antisemitism’ remarks  - namely, his remarks about antisemitism (translated from the original BBC-speak.)

Anyway, for their web article, the BBC chose just a selected excerpt from the offending remarks, as according to Sky he said a lot more:
"The rich control the papers. The rich control everything else, and the rich know he's going to make them pay taxes and they'll move heaven and earth to…
"And one of these things about antisemitism is that they're using that to whip people up. They'll use anything - any lies. It's all total lies and they just whip it up. 
"I'll tell you what - and this is off the record. It's almost certain who is behind all this antisemitism against Jeremy, almost certainly it was the Israeli embassy, because they caught somebody in the Labour party, it turns out they were an agent in the embassy. 
"One of them works indirectly for the Israeli embassy. I wouldn't want to be bothered to find out but my guess would be they're the ones whipping it up all the time."
He went on:
"In the Guardian not long ago we had 68 rabbis - obviously organised by the Israeli embassy - saying antisemitism in the Labour party is widespread and severe.”

Why am I bothered?

Well, I’m afraid I’ll have to go back to the episode of Any Answers that Craig examined here 
To my mind, Melanie Abbott's handling of the first item on the Any Answers agenda was equally, if not more appalling than the one Craig dealt with.

Ms Abbott’s voice may be less irritating than Anita Anand’s, but judging from that one episode, where Israel is concerned she is BBC through and through, i.e., hostile to Israel and all who sail in her.  Do give it a listen or if you've already done so, another one. It's the first item.

The first caller, ‘Jane from Liverpool’ struggled to make her point, but she managed to convey quite clearly that she found it all the more appalling that Peter Willsman was no ordinary three-quid Labour Party member, but an elected member of the NEC. 

During her faltering contribution, Ms Abbott unhelpfully interrupted this caller twice, firstly challenging her allegation that Willsman is “part of Momentum” 

“We don’t know that”

Well, yes, but we do know that Willsman did indeed have a relationship with Momentum in the past because that organisation publicly disowned him when he was originally suspended for his unfortunate remark about Jews being Trump supporters. One would hope that this would have been known to Ms Abbott since it was well covered by the Guardian. She had plenty of time to gen up on these things I’d have thought, and hardly worth an admonishment-like challenge.

She interrupted again, diverting the caller away from ‘the Palestinian cause’ and steering her towards the expulsion of Alistair Campbell. 
“We don’t know” whether or not Willsman’s recorded rant “could have been doctored,” said Ms Abbott. 
Was she really trying to fudge the contrast between Campbell’s rapid expulsion and Willsman’s mere ‘suspension’? It sounded like it.
As for speculation about the veracity of the recording, well, I think that theory is attributable to Lord Falconer and was also covered in the Graun. 

Incidentally, before his initial reinstatement Willsman is said to have gone through ‘antisemitism training’.  That must be effective! 

Next, a caller named Dave Whetton from Tunbridge in Kent. Dave’s rant came well within the terms of the IHRA definition of antisemitism, but Melanie Abbott gave him free rein to whine, even allowing him to cite, nay, recommend, Al Jazeera’s’ The Lobby’ unchallenged, and (with one cautious exception) virtually uninterrupted.

Dave
“Well it’s all gone very hysterical, you know, you know, anyone who attacks Israeli gov’ment is antisemitic. Um, I would suggest that anyone, any listeners, tune in to Al Jazeera - er - The Lobby, it shows exac’ly what’s been going on with any infos(?) direc’ly from the Israeli Embassy in this country to undermine any future Labour gov’ment in this country.”

MA
Well, we can’t stand by that; we, we don’t know if that is actually true… 
Dave
Well I would ask a consistence(?) of people, How likely is it that the Israeli gov’ment isn’t involved with trying to undermine a Corbyn gov’mnt because they know that he supports, he and the Labour Party, support the Palestinian cause. Now, on the programme Lord Falconer said you can support the Palestinian cause without being antisemitic. Of course you can, but it doesn’t mean to say that you’re not gonna attack the Israeli Govenmnt in the process. For what they’re doing out there in occupied lands. 
MA
Dave thank you for that I’d like to bring Ian Brothwell in from Nottingham; Ian what’s your view of what’s going on with the Labour party?

IB
Well it all seems very confused and i think headless chickens comes to mind. 
MA
heh heh, that’s a bt harsh 
IB
Um in the EU election I didn’t vote labour or Conservative because I couldn’t get a clear idea of whether they were for or against Brexit….

He went off topic but was gently guided back with a question about the way Alistair Campbell has been treated. 
Ian feels sorry for Big Al because he’s been such a long-standing Labour Party supporter. 
Abbott quotes from a rule that states that a member who supports another political organisation shall be ineligible to remain a party member. Then: 
“Dave, what do you think about the way Alistair Campbell’s been treated”

So Dave is still on the line! Apologies for the words I couldn't catch; his diction wasn't up to much.
"I think it’s silly. They should have given him a slap on the wrist and have done with it. you know, because it can’t help but be compared with the suspensions. This is what’s going on. The media’s focusing on and all the anti-Corbynites are focusing on. So it was a silly thing to do. Slap on the wrist and vote properly next time Alistair, Everyone’s entitled to change their vote, so many people did it this time, you know voted Green or LibDem, who normally, when it comes to a big election,
would vote for the two big main parties!
MA
Dave and Ian, thank you both for that. I would like to move on now.

Finally, I fell upon an article on Swawkbox (I know) and amongst the b.t.l. comments (mostly defending Willsman) I spotted one that said something like:

“And all on the day when BBC Radio 4 highlights Israel’s inhumane denial of exit permits to Gazans who need hospital treatment”.

That’s how fake news works. And all on the day when there's nothing but wall-to-wall disparaging coverage of President Trump's belated state visit to the UK. I thank you.

Saturday, 1 June 2019

Alistair, thank you for that


Was Melanie Abbott channelling her inner Diane Abbott today?

I haven't listened to Any Answers in a while, mainly due to Anita Anand treating it as 'The Anita Anand Show', but I tuned in today to find a debut appearance as stand-in presenter from Radio 4 journalist Melanie Abbott.

As it was her debut and she's "very excited" about it, I won't rain on her parade too much. I preferred her to Anita, but some friendly advise really may be needed: (1) Don't interrupt so much (they're members of the public, not politicians); (2) Don't cut people off so abruptly as it sounds rude; and (3) Don't react like an over-sensitive hedgehog whenever a caller, in passing, criticises the BBC.

That latter exchange climaxed in a slight spat over the CBI's membership numbers, and it's worth quoting in its own right:
Melanie Abbott, BBC: (interrupting) Alistair McMillan in Glasgow, I'd like to come to you. So another...the deal should be put to the people again? What do you think?
Alistair from Glasgow: No, I don't think so because I don't...The thing is the whole...I rang in because I get rather annoyed with the hysteria that we hear from various panel members - and we heard it again yesterday - about chaos and catastrophe if there is a no deal. 'No deal' is a misnomer. It doesn't exist. There is no chance of us leaving in a no deal situation...
Melanie(interrupting) Why do you think that?
Alistair: Well, I run a business. We export to around 120+ countries around the world, including every one in the EU. We've marched up the hill twice now towards a no deal and the last time it was literally within 24 hours we were told that it would not be a no deal. I have been very impressed by organisations like HMRC...
Melanie(interrupting) So when you say there's no such thing you mean...
Alistair: Sorry?
Melanie: When you say there's no such thing as a no deal you mean you don't think it well ever happen?
Alistair: No. There's no such thing as a no deal because as we've found in the run-up to the two times when we were about to leave there are masses of small deals that have been done which actually give us what we need. And the only thing we needed on top of that would be an Article 24 agreement between the EU and the UK and things would basically then carry on as they are. The HMRC...
Melanie(interrupting) We haven't been told about these small deals that are being done....
Alistair(interrupting) I know. I quite agree with you. It's very frustrating. And I find it very frustrating that the BBC and other organisations choose not to report these. I have had...
Melanie(interrupting) But we've got a business organisation, the CBI, saying that we must have a deal to protect the economy. That's 190,000 members. Can they be wrong?
Alistair: Well, no, it is not 190,000. No, it is not. They have...
Melanie(interrupting) That's what it says on their website. 
Alistair: They have 2,500 members...
Melanie(interrupting) Do you think they're lying...
Alistair: (crosstalk) They have 2,500 members.
Melanie(crosstalk)...on their website about their members?
Alistair: Yes. They're not members. They don't have 190,000 members. They have affiliate organisations that have membership, which I belong to, but that doesn't mean they speak for me. There is no such thing as a no deal because there are masses of small deals and HMRC in particular have make sure, and also carriers...I have had guarantees from carriers that they will get our goods through because they've been working on getting this sorted out. The whole thing is that a lot of this is just hysteria, and the louder that these people call of chaos and catastrophe the more they seem to believe it themselves... 
Melanie(interrupting) Alistair, thank you for that.
Naturally, I thought I'd check. 

The BBC's Melanie was quoting from the CBI's 'About Us' page which begins, "The CBI speaks on behalf of 190,000 businesses. Together they employ nearly 7 million people, about one-third of the private sector-employed workforce." 

Yet, according to Wikipedia, "The Confederation of British Industry is a UK business organisation, which in total speaks for 190,000 businesses, made up of around 1,500 direct and 188,500 indirect members." 

So who's right? The BBC's Melanie or businessman Alistair from Glasgow? 

Well, 1,500 direct members is roughly in the same tennis court as Alistair's 2,500 members figure - and surely sounds about right for the CBI's core membership number. The 190,000 businesses with the 188,500 indirect members is a much more nebulous concept. 

I can believe that the CBI is probably speaking for most of its 1-2,500 direct members but Melanie's claim that the CBI also speaks en masse for its 188,500 indirect members is far less believable. 

So I'm siding with Alistair from Glasgow.