Sunday, 13 August 2017

Open Thread


This isn't how I remember Tom and Jerry:
In the meantime, please post any thoughts about BBC bias below as usual. And thank you.

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  1. Sadly, sadly, (because there are many good things about the idea and reality of the BBC) we just have to face up to the fact it's a fight to the death...either we (ordinary sensible family-oriented Brits who don't accept Sharia in any shape or form, don't want their kids being monitored for alleged signs of trans-genderism and don't think Lenny Henry's every word has to be accepted as a pearl of wisdom) live and prosper or the BBC does. Sad it's come to this. There was a time that the people and the BBC marched together towards the sunlit uplands. No longer.

    [Funny - when I referenced Lenny Henry there, I just realised actually although over the past 5 or so years
    the BBC has regularly exposed us to his belly-aching I doubt we'll ever hear much more from him. Times move on. Fashions change. LH is definitely in the past for the BBC now. They want the sharp suited Muslim beard now. West Indies is way in the past now.]


    are defeated and die

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    1. Perhaps it's a local thing but the brown faces are in the majority here and Lenny's kind are few and elderly. Yet the commercial world appears to have received Henry's memo as more and more adverts look as if they were made for Kingston, Jamaica rather than Kingston-on-Thames.
      Certainly on the BBC to be Asian and female gives one the keys to the kingdom. Countryfile is becoming a reversal of the old Attenborough-style travel documentary as the intrepid 'BME' presenters explore the British hinterland, beyond the bounds of Islington 'civilisation'.

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    2. Regarding (Sir ?) Lenny Henry there, I've resolved it if I every meet Len (which is unfortunately likely) I'll have to shake him by the hand and congratulate him on helping to win the EU referendum for leave and for being such a patriot by his genius stunt on the Thames in June 2016. I'd do the same for geldolf too, except shake his hand of course as he's a renowned soap dodger.

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  2. BBC 1pm News: Surreal opening sequence as Reeta Chakrabarti, reports from Lahore on the 70th anniversary of Pakistani and Indian independence: "You can probably see," she says, "the crowds celebrating ìn the streets behind me." Behind her we can see two streets; neither is crowded, in fact one is deserted, and in the other we see a few shoppers, dodging the mopeds - nobody appears to be celebrating. Fake news from the BBC, what a surprise!

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    1. I don't remember seeing anything about the 50th or 60th anniversary celebrations either.

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  3. The BBC have now given up all pretence of impartiality. Biased BBC comment has the clip:

    https://biasedbbc.org/blog/2017/08/13/start-the-week-open-thread-137/comment-page-2/#comment-859230

    The egregious Emma Barnett (well used to giving us her soggy left PC opinions in print and on Sky) has now been given licence to turn Newsnight into a vehicle for her to express her bias rather than meet the BBC's charter obligations.

    The marvellous Ann Coulter puts her right: there is indeed a complete equivalence between the jackbooted right and the jackbooted left who both wish to apply their ideologies without going through the tiresome business of getting elected.

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  4. 6 pm News - The Beeb is up to its old tricks with camera work: David Davies was filmed with the camera above his head height and well to one side of the interviewer so that he was not looking into it - this made him look shifty and evasive. When the BBC interviews people of whom it approves, the camera is placed as close as possible to the interviewer so that the interviewee appears to be looking into it and gives the impression of being frank open and honest. What the Brexiteers should do is locate the camera and turn to face it, even if this means turning away from the interviewer.

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  5. Seen via Guido's site:

    http://commentcentral.co.uk/the-bbc-chapman-and-a-post-brexit-meltdown/

    Thanks to a recent flurry of anti-Brexit tweets – some more eccentric than others – Chapman predictably managed to find his way onto the BBC radar. Calling Brexit a ‘calamity’ he recently popped up on Radio 4’s Today programme, and on August 11 had a whole BBC news website page devoted to his fringe views. The BBC even reproduced some of his most recent tweets, one of which read:

    “Let’s be honest, if we had an effective electoral law leading Brexiteers would now be in jail.”

    That the BBC reproduced this tweet in all its glory speaks volumes.

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  6. We seem in Europe to be drifting into a new era of censorship. That "car" ramming attack has been buried but you'll find a pic of the man arrested at the scene if you scroll down...

    https://twitter.com/search?q=%23SeptSorts

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  7. More blatant Left-wing bias about the violence in Charlottesville. The BBC has now decided to tell us about Antifa.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40930831

    Why tell us now?

    But many conservatives say blame should be shared by Antifa, a loosely affiliated group of far-left protesters.

    Critics argue the media tends to excuse violence by Antifa militants just because they are fighting white supremacists and their odious ideology.


    Antifa and their cohorts get violent about a lot more than just white supremacists. They've marched against many conservative voices who have nothing to do with white supremacy. This is just a pure lie by the BBC in order to try and portray the group as more saintly.

    The social causes of Antifa (short for anti-fascist or Anti-Fascist action) are easily identifiable as left-leaning.

    Most members oppose all forms of racism and sexism, and strongly oppose what they see as the nationalist, anti-immigration and anti-Muslim policies that Mr Trump has enacted.

    However, as their name indicates, Antifa focuses more on fighting far-right ideology than encouraging pro-left policy.


    See? Anything the BBC doesn't agree with or see as 'moderate' is 'far-right'. At no time do they define Antifa as 'far-left'. They're just not mainstream.

    The article closes with some very dishonestly positive statements from Antifa. It's so obvious the BBC approves.

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    1. Antifa oppose all border control. So they oppose the stated policy of the vast majority of political parties in the Western world, not just Far Right. They oppose all free market capitalism. Many oppose private transport. They oppose all academic findings that oppose their ideology. Antifa uses violence and intimidation to get their way.

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    2. And the BBC just lied about them. Just like they lied about Occupy.

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  8. BBC Censorship alert: No mention anywhere that North Korea has backed off the threat to bomb Guam after Trump rattled his sabre. It wouldn't fit the narrative that he can't do anything right.

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    1. Yep, they definitely don't want to suggest he has played it v. well so far, even securing a unanimous UNSC resolution.

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    2. Trying to stir up a domestic race war to distract from a so far well handled nuclear stand off seems.... very BBC.

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  9. The melt-down over Trump is a delight to behold. Still nothing about North Korea, and still no admitting that while Trump has never spoken out in support of white supremacism and how now denounced it, Corbyn has a record of speaking out in support of all sorts of nasty people and policies, and has never denounced any of it.

    Massive BBC hypocrisy and lying now.

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  10. Spot the Missing Word:

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-40965581

    Okay, so the BBC has finally broken from previous tradition and has no problem calling it terrorism. But what kind of terrorism? Why is it terrorism if we don't know the motivation behind it? We do know, though: Moroccan terrorism.

    I guess Morocco has some history of animus towards Spanish oppression? Yeah, that's it.

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    1. Check the Spanish language edition for the missing word. No knowledge of Spanish is required.

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    2. So the censored it for the domestic English-speaking audience? Sykes Rule in effect.

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  11. Pussy-footing: It took them a while even to call it 'terrorism' - in the first BBC1 news bulletin after the attack, George Alagiah, interviewing another Beeboid, said, "I mean, we don't want to get ahead of ourselves here, but there is a pattern to these things..." Quite, so why not just say 'Islamist terrorists'? This morning we had this gem, "Spanish police shot five suspected terrorists wearing suicide belts" - one might think the belts confirmed the suspicion!

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    1. Ellie Fant-Indaroom18 August 2017 at 11:01

      The BBC rule is "If you can't hide it, sanitise it."

      They are very happy to identify the belief systems of Far Right racists or to show the dead boa child to justify open borders migration. But Jihadi terror? Forget it. Don't even mention the Jihadi word because that upsets mainstream believers who think there is a "good" Jihad to be had!

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    2. 2nd BBC rule: "If it's even slightly to the right of standard Beebthink, demonise it."

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  12. Well, well, looks like the Proms bosses had a little fear of God put into them:

    http://slippedisc.com/2017/08/bbc-demands-to-vet-conductors-last-night-speech/

    Sakari Oramo has told the Times that BBC officials have demanded to see advance text of his speech at the Last Night of the Proms.

    Oramo is a well known Remoaner. As chief conductor the BBC Symphony Orchestra, it's a double whammy if he screws it up for them.

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  13. I think this article is what the Americans call "running interference"...

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-39540371

    Some observations:

    1. Some 3600 people died in the N Ireland troubles - so for the period 70-95, that one conflict (essentially a tribal land dispute and nothing more)would have been contributing anything between 100 and 400 deaths per annum. In other words, that one tiny corner of Europe was responsible for all those deaths (so why include those civil war deaths but not civil war deaths in Ukraine and FYR?).

    2. We are now in the latter half of 2017 but the graph ends in 2015 and does not include figures for 2016. Could there be any reason for this oversight by the "world class" news gathering BBC with its £5 billion budget? Hmmm...maybe because 2016 was worse than 2015 terror deaths.

    We can see what the BBC policy is: to persuade us (a) that terror has always been with us and (b)that it is the "new normal" that we have to accept as part of modern urban life.

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    1. Yes, it's a deliberate narrative some editor is trying to push. The problem here is that, while this may be an 'accurate' depiction of the raw numbers, there's a massively significant difference between all those incidents and the current wave of terrorism: all the incidents and political situations listed were essentially conflicts amongst the indigenous populations, while the current wave of atrocities (with the lone exception of that Norwegian lunatic) is being perpetrated exclusively by an imported demographic.

      Britain has always been a multicultural, multiracial society of immigrants. Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia.

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  15. Turned on R4 for a break from the cricket on Sky.

    - Caught the end of the 6 pm News summarising that the cell in the Barcelona "terrorist" incident had been eliminated. Then the "terrorist" incident in Finland; it was added that this was Finland's first "terrorist" incident, as though this was a good thing.
    - Then a plug by Paddy for BH tomorrow. Brendan Cox will be on discuss the rise in "hate" from Charlottesville to Barcelona. Of course. I divined the latest desperate BBC line. It's all "terrorism" and it's all driven by the nasty, nasty, thing called hate. Have to say I won't be listening - can't stand nonentity Cox dining out on his wife's murder. I'd imagine that BH was set-up before the Barcelona "terrorist" incident, with original intention of having Cox slam "far-right" extremist "hate" groups from Bradford to Charlottesville. But un-ignorable events in Europe upset that plan.

    Then it was Loose Ends live from Edinburgh Festival, opening with Clive Anderson delivering a very lame, obsequious joke equating Trump with NK's Kim.

    I'd listened for 2 minutes and had had enough, way more than enough of BBC Thought Control. Back to the cricket on Sky.

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    1. The bias is relentless and intensive: 24/7. I think we all feel that now. It appears on the news, in documentaries, in history programmes, in current affairs discussions, in sport, in arts programmes, in drama and soap operas, in "reality checks", in audience comment programmes, and in the films chosen for screening. There is no longer any concept of a broad representation of views in society.

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  16. Having steeled itself to use the word 'terrorists' yesterday, the BBC has suffered a relapse: today (News Channel,8pm) they have been downgraded to 'radical islamist militants.'

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    1. At least they've stopped bringing on the usual suspects (no pun intended) to blame it all on Western foreign policy and poverty and racism in the host countries. Granted, one of those usual suspects is currently in prison.

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    2. The BBC and MSM generally do react to public opinion. Even Goebbels accepted there was a thing called public opinion and reacted to it or played it.

      I notice with the BBC and MSM generally that we have moved from "religiose acceptance and candles" more to "resolve and defiance"...they clearly feel they can get more traction with the public mood by playing up "defiance"...but this defiance is quite meaningless - it just means going about your normal business, which you pretty much have to do anyway but with the added proviso that you accept they may decide to kill you at any moment. You aren't allowed to discuss any effective counter-measures e.g. restricting migration from specific risk zones (how many Spaniards would dearly love to restrict migration from Morocco right now?). You aren't allowed to discuss any effective internal security measures (e.g. preventing propagation of Sharia within your country's borders).

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  17. And this is why the BBC is really evil...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Gkxm6bKtsk

    The whole point of that BBC 3 BS is to deflect from and justify Sharia and that is evil because Sharia (subjugating women, sanctioning slavery, censoring art, making minorities second class citizens, and throwing gays off high buildings) is evil.

    They know EXACTLY what they are doing and it's WRONG.

    And that is why the BBC life support system (the licence fee) has to be destroyed. Sad but true. They brought it on themselves.

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  18. Interesting to note that the BBC World Service can still provide some decent news. I heard today an informative report on flooding in Bangladesh. Flooding in Bangladesh? surely time to cue mention of man-made global warming you must be thinking! But no - amazingly no mention of climate change. Instead the finger was pointed at urbanisation, population growth and poor land use planning...and sensible solutions were offered like better mapping, use of permeable surfaces in cities and stricter planning controls. I was amazed, but it shows that the BBC is still occasionally capable of proper news reporting, rather than virtue-signalling PC propaganda. Why can't the BBC be more like that and less like a students union resolution?

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  19. It's from over a month ago, but I just stumbled across Newsnight's James O'Brien on his LBC show stating uncategorically that having a religious belief that boys and girls should be educated separately is "the definition of discrimination".

    https://youtu.be/bTkNmjH-Ebw?t=1m50s

    He's debating some Muslim caller asking why he thinks it's right for boys and girls to be kept apart in school. At one point, he explains that it's not just Islamic belief that is discrimination, but Christian and Jewish beliefs as well.

    This is personal opinion, stated as fact. BBC presenters are not supposed to do that in public extra-curricular activities. Is there some special dispensation for him?

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    1. Not just him. Emma Barnett also has a special pass. She has her own columns and appears on Sky's "The Pledge" giving her personal opinions on matters of public controversy...and in no uncertain terms (anti-Trump, pro-migration, anti-Brexit).

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