Huw says: "Let me begin by way of explanation - as there has been some con-tro-vers-y about this - I had absolutley no idea the tweet from the GMB, founder and third largest member organisation of the Labour Party, together with the attached video about the NHS, bearing throughout the GMB logo, could in any way be construed as political...now with that out of the way, let me introduce our Remain-friendly panel..."
The choice has turned out to be between the Conservatives with their history of good economic management and their commitment to 'getting Brexit done' and Labour who have offered unrealistic promises over Brexit and of money for all from the money tree. And yet, it isn't a foregone conclusion as to which party will win the battle of ideals. I doubt whether now-retired traditional Labour voters would welcome a return to the socialist politics of the 1970s - but it is the young voters who have no concept of what a beleaguered economy means who might sway the outcome.
BBC -Yesterday, an interview with the father of Jack Merritt, who was killed in the muslim terrorist attack on Fishmongers' Hall - the father feels that Boris has sought to exploit his son's death. Today, an interview with the man who tackled the terrorist with a fire-extinguisher, just to keep the father's words fresh in our minds.
Most people seem to be suggesting online that polling stations have been very busy (my observation as well), suggesting a big turnout, something that normally favours Labour, but I guess we can still pray that's not the case this time...I'm getting exit poll jitters...it's sudden death but at the beginning of the match! :)
Lab Maj of 10 - Death of democracy...exit the country now if you can. Brexit will be the least of our worries. Civil War in N Ireland, People's Assemblies agitating for revolution, strikes everywhere, economic crisis of unprecedented proportions.
Hung Parliament with Labour minority government supported by SNP - Years of turmoil. Scotland exits the UK. No Brexit.
Hung Parliament with Labour in coalition with Lib Dems. Might be slightly less dangerous than Lab minority government.
Conservative Majority of more than 10 - Praise the Lord! End the licence fee!! Reform the universities!!! For gawd's sake, Conservatives stop being the Timid Tories and take the fight to the enemy.
Well, that's some exit poll. Can we assume that when we get the final result and the demolition of the current Labour Party, that we can expect the resignation of Jeremy Corbyn followed by the reconstruction of The Labour Party and a credible opposition. Now lets sort out Brexit and get back on track!
Note the language of the BBC presenters - Jeremy Vine, Faisal Islam and Rita Chakraborty and their constant use of ‘the Tories’ which they spit out as if it’s left a nasty taste in the mouth.
We have to realise what a stupendous result this is. Boris has been undermined and slandered every inch of his political journey since he opted for Leave by the BBC, Sky, ITV, Mail (until recently) and a huge number of his fellow Conservative MPs. He has been subject to every insult imaginable. He's been called a woman-hater, a Fascist, a Muslim hater, the British Trump etc etc.
I think if you subtracted the media and traitor bias, the Conservatives would probably be scoring another 50 to 100 seats.
In the 5-minute run-up to the exit poll I was watching all the faces in the BBC studio and noted the lack of smiles and the lack of sparkle in the eyes. I really did think at that moment, 'Does that mean a Conservative majority?'.
"Much gloom at the New Statesman’s election party in Covent Garden - even though for the first time in its history it didn’t back the Labour Party", John Simpson is tweeting. Fancy him being at the New Statesman's election party!
Paul Mason tweets: "BBC exit poll predicts Tories to take 70+ seats. If so - a victory of the old over the young, racists over people of colour, selfishness over the planet. Scotland will leave UK. However it does not feel right compared to on-the-ground."
Lol - thanks Craig. Paul Mason clearly about to be sectioned.
I like the way he gets in the instant lib-left talking point - Scotland will leave the UK - plus a conspiracy theory...the results are not matching what Corbynistas knew was the real feeling on the ground!
Andrew Marr tweets, "Another battle verdict: social media - overwhelmingly livelier and funnier on the pro Labour side - thumped in terms of influence by dull, dreary, pro-establishment old media...Who’d ‘a thunk it?"
I see Marr is down in Uxbridge...presumably he took the gig when everyone at the BBC thought there was a good chance Boris would lose his seat...would have been the biggest ever hit! Sadly, looks like Andy's going to be Sad Andy again.
File under "They can't help themselves"...ITV panel discussion predicting Boris will come to grief over Scottish Independence as PM!!! FFS...we don't even know how big his majority is yet and they are already trying to undermine him!
But as George Osborne said, with a big majority Boris can tell them to F Off. Also, once Scotland with the rest of the UK is out of EU the SNP have to argue for Scotland leave the UK customs union and being part of (a) the Euro and (b) the Schengen agreement.
Just checked out the Guardian. To be fair they are using the L word - "Tory landslide". Only when I read that, did I realise that BBC, ITV and Sky have been avoiding the "landslide" word! Bias can be so subtle.
- "Conservative vote increasing only marginally. But Labour vote in absolute freefall. Not necessarily voting for anyone else just not turning up." - "Same thing in Sunderland Central. Conservative vote up a bit. Labour vote down massively. They’ve stayed at home."
Is this the insight we're going to get on 'Newsnight'? The turnout in Sunderland Central has fallen by less than 2,000 since 2017. Yes, the Conservatives only gained a few hundred votes and Labour fell by just under 7,000 votes, but Lewis is missing that the Brexit Party got 5,000 votes. So, from the looks of that, very few disenchanted Labour voters stayed at home. They went out to vote for Brexit-supporting parties. In other words, Lewis's analysis is wrong.
Scottish Independence? The wheels will come off that bandwagon once Alex Salmond goes to trial in early February. If he goes down, as looks likely, he plans to take the whole house down with him, Sturgeon and all. The SNP will be in the doghouse once this sh1t show hits the road. This is a great result and I am saying this as a life long Labour voter, and Brexiteer, who can't abide what has happened to the party in recent years. Boris needs to clean house quickly; Tony Hall should be gone in the morning. An interim DG should be appointed, David Elstein or even Andrew Neil. A major review on the size and scale of the BBC ordered immediately before the Charter Renewal discussion even begins. Channel 4 should be privatised as soon as possible. These things must happen quickly now. Craig & Sue, you have done a magnificent job over the last few years as balance at the BBC has disappeared completely. There is light at the end of the tunnel; keep going! The victory will be yours.
David Davis MP (very probably still!) must have been watching Katya Adler: "Really extraordinary nonsense from a BBC that has got Brexit wrong at every turn now trying to conclude that a big Tory victory means a more Euro-compliant negotiation! They forget that Boris actually believes in Brexit."
Katya Adler (around 00.35); "What EU leaders will also say tomorrow, I am told, they want to underline this ambition for a broad, comprehensive trade deal with the UK after Brexit. They don't believe that can be done in Boris Johnson's timetable. He said he would like to get this trade deal done with the EU by December next year. The EU say to him, if you wanted quick and dirty, fine. But it will be under our rules and that will mean the UK signing up to EU regulations. Where will be the take back control in that?"
The exit poll...hahaha. Oh I laughed even though in the end I couldn't bring myself to vote Conservative, couldn't forgive what they put us through since the referendum - traitors and useless to boot; I voted for the Brexit Party even though they won't win the seat - or any seat if it comes to that.
What a shower the media are - Sky wheeling on Bercow - what the heck? ITV with 'personality' boy Bradby and that catwalk woman mincing around in a black bag with the hem bundled up in her stocking tops, plus obnoxious whiny Osborne and Balls - did the two old muckers come as a job lot?; on the BBC there's an embarrassment of Scots (because Sir Hall decrees more annoying Scots voices on what that wee woman calls the English Broadcasting Corporation) and various weirdos, starting with Vine bouncing around a map like a hyperactive Peter Snow (remember the cowboy hat and boots, anyone?), and a whole night of Red Plaid Huw and that hard voiced yappy yuppy Munchetty; and what is with BBC women as usual in red, notably Kuennsberg - she ought to know better but doesn't care, unlike Sophie who covered her red with a pink coat, though she might as well not have bothered.
Depends which constituency you were in. I would have voted Brexit if I had a candidate to vote for and wasn't convinced the Conservative candidate would see through Brexit.
Lots of these people have a real animus against Boris. That includes Bercow and Bradby. They both hate him.
Lol - I do remember Vine as a rather unmacho cowboy!
Naga v. annoying - it's always about her isn't it - how she's feeling etc...
I don't think the Conservatives can win here - 62% Remain and it's between them and LidDem. Conservatives took it from Ed Davy in 2015 - Boris came here in that campaign - and Libdems got it back in 2017. A new unknown (to me anyway) Conservative candidate this time. More ominously, in the last local government elections the (admittedly dire) Conservative Council was annihilated after a fairly short tenure and the LibDems got back in with a vengeance.
Serious amount of misery on the Ch4 "Alternative Election Night". But at I won the game of "Boris letterbox comment faux outrage" bingo (although I was the only one playing)
And just to complete the Red Labour cast, who but yappy wee Scot Hazarika in red livery, lamenting that 'we' should have won. 'We' is Labour of course.
Hot take from John Simpson, a few seconds ago: "The likely scale of Johnson’s win means that Brexit is now unstoppable, but it’ll be a lot softer than it might have been. The influence of hardline Brexiteers like Jacob Rees-Mogg has evaporated. Brussels will be relieved that Johnson will have the strength to negotiate a deal."
Here's Mark Urban: "Time for soul searching in political parties - but also for big media. Has quest for 'gotcha' moments become meaningless? Did the boy in Leeds hospital or BoJo blanking Andrew Neil move the dial in any way? Voters are in their own silos now, social media battleground key".
I'd like to say I supported Boris from Day One (well once he came out for Leave). Never had any doubt about his ability to win. Never believed all the negative propaganda. Supported his leadership bid and said he could get an EU deal. Always thought he was the best Conservative leader to win a General Election.
So I think us Boris Loyalists deserve a pat on the back.
Stephen Pollard: "I am no fan of Boris. But in all honesty it's difficult to imagine Hunt, Javid or Stewart delivering anything even close to this. Yes, Corbyn has been his biggest aid. But this is Johnson's triumph (and, of course, Dominic Cummings)"
I'd say it's Dominic Cummings' victory. He injected a bit of ideology and populism into the Conservative Party which up to then saw itself as a kind of leaders' club.
His popularity terrified then PM David Cameron. I happened to meet him when he was campaigning here - had no idea he was here and nearly walked into him outside the railway station. He exudes amiability and humour combined with a lack of pomposity or stiffness. The eccentric, funny, shambolic and colourful 'character' precedes him and that is a big part of what disposes people to want to meet and talk to him. He's like his father who has a similar easy manner and likeability.
Oh God, Red Huw and Heidi ('compassionate') Allen wittering on about the people. How many parties has she joined? Didn't much care about the people when she campaigned against the result of the referendum.
Think I am about to vomit...Stella Creasy on with baby...She's taken virtue signalling to a new level. "You can't criticise me - I'm holding my baby..."
Exactly! In some ways I feel the virtue signaller non Marxist Labour MPs are far worse than the Corbynites who at least seem to believe in something beyond themselves.:)
"Moderate" Jess Phillips being promoted by the BBC-MSM franchise...
This is the MP who said she wants to have political vetting of ALL candidates for Parliament by the Electoral Commission, to ensure they meet PC criteria.
To use a Kinnockian term, "the most sagacious Marxist of our age" - Paul Mason - states as follows: "I still expect Labour to take seats in the working class areas of southern England" - presumably that's constituencies like Putney and Battersea with probably the highest concentration of millionaires in any constituency in the country! :)
How could we forget Radio 4? Just heard Alastair Campbell doing duty on there with the two stalwart presenters: James Naughtie and Emma Barnett. Both Labour, I presume. Well I know one is anyway. Mr Naughtie.
OK - now seems a good time to give my view on the election results...
1. The first time the Conservatives dip their toe in the waters of populism they do fantastically well. So eff off Gauke, Grieve, Soubry, Wollaston, Stewart and everyone else who dragged down the Conservative Party when they were around.
2. The Conservatives mustn't be lulled into a false sense of security by this result. Until they turn themselves into a truly populist party as opposed to the party of property their victory will never be secure.
BBC analysis: Labour defeat due to Brexit, Corbyn and something else I forget...
They don't mention PATRIOTISM.
I think this has been the killer for Labour. People no longer believe Labour wants a good outcome for our country and have decided they are driven by ideology not love of country.
Labour is Labour and has to be defeated as Labour. The only time they got elected in the last 50 years was when they pretend not to be Labour (New Labour).
Hats off to Farage - not sure if he meant to but he played a blinder...feeding in enough Brexit Party votes to deny Labour victories in loads of constituencies.
Rachel Sylvester on the BBC - she told us numerous times that Boris would never be PM...would never get a deal with the EU...would never win this election...
Happy times!
Oh yeah - Swinson kicked out as well...does it get any better?
It shouldn't do - the clue's in the etymology: Conservation is Conservative. Many left-wing policies, particularly open borders, are decidedly un-green.
Beeb's First step: stir up discontent in NI & Scotland. I expect they'd ideally like to see IRA resume its offensive; as for Scotland, creation of a 'SRA'?
I don't believe this: Andrew Marr has just criticised the new Tory slogan 'the People's Government'. Mr Marr tells us that, "We don't like that use of 'the people's' - it sounds French." He didn't mind the 'people's vote', though, did he?
Yes, on the subject of Marr and language, see the article in Spiked about language in politics and in particular analysis of an interrupting accusatory Marr 'interview' of Boris in September.
Steady stream of little barbs from Marr and Edwards eg. (Edwards) "The Express, yet another Conservative-supporting paper." How about "the BBC, yet another Remain-backing a-v medium?"
I think it's safe for me to come out from behind the sofa! Prospect of a Marxist Labour - Racist Scottish Nationalist government was truly frightening. Like MB above I was always a Boris backer. A large contributor to my support was from observing the BBC's hatred of him. I do hope that Boris reforms the BBC. It's a malignant influence on the nation. Now listening to Today, it's clear that going forward the BBC's attack lines will be about Brexit causing a constitutional crisis with the Scotland and NI and that trade deals cannot be done in any measurable timeframe. I've heard Surgeon's voice more that I've heard Boris so far.
Yes, I've been assessing the BBC's reaction to Boris's landslide victory, though I haven't heard that term used. Andrew Marr and Vicky Young were sheepish, but significantly, Marr said : "we don't know Boris Johnson". Well, Andrew, if you'd let him be heard, you might know better who he is and what he stands for.
The second line of criticism was about the breaking up of the Union particularly in Scotland. In the event of Indyref2, the SNP would need to explain to their supporters how they might manage without the £ and the BoE, naval dockyards, shipbuilding and other MoD contracts and what their place in the EU would feel like - being one of the smallest and least significant members of the EU.
It came as no surprise that Labour northern strongholds fell to the Conservatives. Traditions there are for hard work and pride in their communities - best served by enterprise not handouts. The BBC failed to recognise the warnings here, and acted as though they were caught out by a lack of understanding. They even let the idiot in the EU hat with his signs get into the an interview - indicating that their outlook hasn't changed. We are in for an interesting period when the Remain BBC try to shore up its support. We'll see how that plays out.
I notice the BBC are leading their radio bulletins with the headline ‘The biggest Conservative win since Margaret Thatcher’.
Is that an honest and sincere strapline or designed to associate Thatcher with those diehard Labour supporters in the northern mining areas who switched?
The trouble with the BBC is that you never know whether it’s genuine or political point scoring.
Just head someone say (didn’t catch who it was) that Johnson won with one simple message ‘get Brexit done’ whereas Labour had a lots of huge policy offers which diluted their message.
Rubbish excuse for Labour but is that a line the BBC will use?
Over the coming days I expect the BBC to spend their time analysing the loss as they mourn for Labour and No-Brexit instead of focusing on the winner and the opportunities ahead.
Was that on Woman's Hour ? I heard one of the guests there say the same thing (Ash Sarkar ended the piece with 'inshallah'. The squirming postulations they were all making made me chuckle.
Will it ever occur to the Beeboids that, in rejecting their favoured party, the GBP has also rejected them? Nah, such wrongthink would never penetrate the hive of hubris.
Nautilus contentious if electorate for voting Boris in Time for BBC to have its forcible taxation under penalty of imprisonment removed and forced to stand on its own too fight Succession of depressed lefties wheeled out to blame voters "They didn't know what they were voting for !!!"
The Jeremy Vine show trotted out the same old left left wing people today to rubbish the election result.
They were allied to spout their vitriol unchecked by Vine. He showed much sympathy and solidarity with Yasmin Alibhai-Brown.
He even said that those outside London hadn’t listened to the London bubble and wanted to do something else - ‘hadn’t listened’ implied to me that he thought they were voted the wrong way again.
is that Huw not knowing who the old guy with the beard is on Facebook using his 'reporting' about a political foe?
ReplyDeleteHuw says: "Let me begin by way of explanation - as there has been some con-tro-vers-y about this - I had absolutley no idea the tweet from the GMB, founder and third largest member organisation of the Labour Party, together with the attached video about the NHS, bearing throughout the GMB logo, could in any way be construed as political...now with that out of the way, let me introduce our Remain-friendly panel..."
ReplyDeleteThe choice has turned out to be between the Conservatives with their history of good economic management and their commitment to 'getting Brexit done' and Labour who have offered unrealistic promises over Brexit and of money for all from the money tree. And yet, it isn't a foregone conclusion as to which party will win the battle of ideals. I doubt whether now-retired traditional Labour voters would welcome a return to the socialist politics of the 1970s - but it is the young voters who have no concept of what a beleaguered economy means who might sway the outcome.
ReplyDeleteBBC -Yesterday, an interview with the father of Jack Merritt, who was killed in the muslim terrorist attack on Fishmongers' Hall - the father feels that Boris has sought to exploit his son's death.
ReplyDeleteToday, an interview with the man who tackled the terrorist with a fire-extinguisher, just to keep the father's words fresh in our minds.
Most people seem to be suggesting online that polling stations have been very busy (my observation as well), suggesting a big turnout, something that normally favours Labour, but I guess we can still pray that's not the case this time...I'm getting exit poll jitters...it's sudden death but at the beginning of the match! :)
ReplyDeleteLab Maj of 10 - Death of democracy...exit the country now if you can. Brexit will be the least of our worries. Civil War in N Ireland, People's Assemblies agitating for revolution, strikes everywhere, economic crisis of unprecedented proportions.
ReplyDeleteHung Parliament with Labour minority government supported by SNP - Years of turmoil. Scotland exits the UK. No Brexit.
Hung Parliament with Labour in coalition with Lib Dems. Might be slightly less dangerous than Lab minority government.
Conservative Majority of more than 10 - Praise the Lord! End the licence fee!! Reform the universities!!! For gawd's sake, Conservatives stop being the Timid Tories and take the fight to the enemy.
Exit poll...Hallelujah!!!!!
ReplyDeleteIf correct.
DeleteLooking correct! Double hallelujah!!
DeleteWell, that's some exit poll. Can we assume that when we get the final result and the demolition of the current Labour Party, that we can expect the resignation of Jeremy Corbyn followed by the reconstruction of The Labour Party and a credible opposition.
ReplyDeleteNow lets sort out Brexit and get back on track!
John.... North London.
Early indications show that the expression on BBC's presenters' faces is 'grim'
ReplyDeleteThat's what I like to see!
DeleteIt's going to be a Grimathon through the night!
DeleteNote the language of the BBC presenters - Jeremy Vine, Faisal Islam and Rita Chakraborty and their constant use of ‘the Tories’ which they spit out as if it’s left a nasty taste in the mouth.
ReplyDeleteYep...time for these presenters to show respect to their betters! :)
DeleteKatya Adler doomongering on Brexit at 2230. Singing the praises of EU and their negotiating position.
ReplyDeleteYes. She's carrying on regardless. "Extreme Brexiteers".
DeleteKatya - like the last Wermacht soldier alive in the Reichstag building.
DeleteI’ve got the popcorn and beer fellow politics nerds, fingers crossed this exit poll is right.
ReplyDeleteIt's definitely celebration time chez the Brains.
DeleteWe have to realise what a stupendous result this is. Boris has been undermined and slandered every inch of his political journey since he opted for Leave by the BBC, Sky, ITV, Mail (until recently) and a huge number of his fellow Conservative MPs. He has been subject to every insult imaginable. He's been called a woman-hater, a Fascist, a Muslim hater, the British Trump etc etc.
I think if you subtracted the media and traitor bias, the Conservatives would probably be scoring another 50 to 100 seats.
I’m loving the faces at the mo - worth the licence fee alone!
ReplyDeleteIn the 5-minute run-up to the exit poll I was watching all the faces in the BBC studio and noted the lack of smiles and the lack of sparkle in the eyes. I really did think at that moment, 'Does that mean a Conservative majority?'.
DeleteIndeed! And over on Sky you can see Bercow trying not to cry.
Delete"Much gloom at the New Statesman’s election party in Covent Garden - even though for the first time in its history it didn’t back the Labour Party", John Simpson is tweeting. Fancy him being at the New Statesman's election party!
ReplyDeleteHe deliberately inserted impartiality in that tweet with the ‘it didn’t back Labour’.
DeleteBut I don’t suppose that party is full of conservatives. It will be 100% Labour just like John.
Ah, Honest John - sad night.
DeleteIf anyone has a sighting of Paul Mason do let us know!
Paul Mason tweets: "BBC exit poll predicts Tories to take 70+ seats. If so - a victory of the old over the young, racists over people of colour, selfishness over the planet. Scotland will leave UK. However it does not feel right compared to on-the-ground."
DeleteHis ground is central London & Islington - try moving outside the London bubble and he might find it feels exactly right.
DeleteLol - thanks Craig. Paul Mason clearly about to be sectioned.
DeleteI like the way he gets in the instant lib-left talking point - Scotland will leave the UK - plus a conspiracy theory...the results are not matching what Corbynistas knew was the real feeling on the ground!
I thought that was one of Craig's spoofs. Don't tell me Mason seriously wrote that.
DeleteCan you imagine if Sunderland goes blue? Their depression will be immense.
ReplyDeleteNick Robinson at the Islington Count is already talking about Corbyn's resignation and the race for his replacement.
ReplyDeleteJohn.... North London.
Grimmest Face of the Night So Far:
ReplyDelete1. Barry Gardiner
2. Sam Coates
Where's Alistair Campbell?
How about that rabid left winger and Newsnight to-be Lewis Goodall? Anyone seen him tonight?
DeleteNo haven't seen him yet...
DeleteAndrew Marr tweets, "Another battle verdict: social media - overwhelmingly livelier and funnier on the pro Labour side - thumped in terms of influence by dull, dreary, pro-establishment old media...Who’d ‘a thunk it?"
ReplyDeletehe’s so out of touch....The dull, dreary, pro-establishment old media BBC backed Labour so his observation is just wrong
DeleteMarr is still digging then? He destroyed his reputation as an interviewer and now he is destroying his reputation as a political analyst.
Deleteseeing him outside of the studio in a random sports centre really makes me question his purpose
DeleteI see Marr is down in Uxbridge...presumably he took the gig when everyone at the BBC thought there was a good chance Boris would lose his seat...would have been the biggest ever hit! Sadly, looks like Andy's going to be Sad Andy again.
DeleteFile under "They can't help themselves"...ITV panel discussion predicting Boris will come to grief over Scottish Independence as PM!!! FFS...we don't even know how big his majority is yet and they are already trying to undermine him!
ReplyDeleteTBF if the SNP has increased their number of MPs as well that’s quite likely unfortunately.
DeleteBut as George Osborne said, with a big majority Boris can tell them to F Off. Also, once Scotland with the rest of the UK is out of EU the SNP have to argue for Scotland leave the UK customs union and being part of (a) the Euro and (b) the Schengen agreement.
DeleteTwitters a bit silent - lol
ReplyDeleteHasn't Paul Mason tweeted yet?
DeleteYep it’s rather nasty! Check it out.
DeleteLewis Goodall tweets
ReplyDelete’Politics is about to get boring’
He has been tweeting furiously about Labour fallout since the exit poll - nothing about the winning party.
Oh well, you will soon see him on Newsnight talking up anti-Boris nonsense he's read in the Guardian.
DeleteI sense a new developing narrative: "Fascist Nigel Farage delivered Boris Johnson's electoral majority, so therefore the victory is immoral."
ReplyDeleteYep - it’ll take a couple of days for the progressives to regroup but that’ll be the message along with the voters were lied to....
DeleteLoving this - Institute for Government spokesperson up next...how did they get it so wrong?
ReplyDeleteJust checked out the Guardian. To be fair they are using the L word - "Tory landslide". Only when I read that, did I realise that BBC, ITV and Sky have been avoiding the "landslide" word! Bias can be so subtle.
ReplyDeleteBraver man than me. One of the few things I won’t read.
DeleteLewis Goodall's latest tweets:
ReplyDelete- "Conservative vote increasing only marginally. But Labour vote in absolute freefall. Not necessarily voting for anyone else just not turning up."
- "Same thing in Sunderland Central. Conservative vote up a bit. Labour vote down massively. They’ve stayed at home."
Is this the insight we're going to get on 'Newsnight'? The turnout in Sunderland Central has fallen by less than 2,000 since 2017. Yes, the Conservatives only gained a few hundred votes and Labour fell by just under 7,000 votes, but Lewis is missing that the Brexit Party got 5,000 votes. So, from the looks of that, very few disenchanted Labour voters stayed at home. They went out to vote for Brexit-supporting parties. In other words, Lewis's analysis is wrong.
Scottish Independence? The wheels will come off that bandwagon once Alex Salmond goes to trial in early February. If he goes down, as looks likely, he plans to take the whole house down with him, Sturgeon and all. The SNP will be in the doghouse once this sh1t show hits the road.
ReplyDeleteThis is a great result and I am saying this as a life long Labour voter, and Brexiteer, who can't abide what has happened to the party in recent years.
Boris needs to clean house quickly; Tony Hall should be gone in the morning. An interim DG should be appointed, David Elstein or even Andrew Neil. A major review on the size and scale of the BBC ordered immediately before the Charter Renewal discussion even begins. Channel 4 should be privatised as soon as possible. These things must happen quickly now.
Craig & Sue, you have done a magnificent job over the last few years as balance at the BBC has disappeared completely. There is light at the end of the tunnel; keep going! The victory will be yours.
David Davis MP (very probably still!) must have been watching Katya Adler: "Really extraordinary nonsense from a BBC that has got Brexit wrong at every turn now trying to conclude that a big Tory victory means a more Euro-compliant negotiation! They forget that Boris actually believes in Brexit."
ReplyDeleteDavis ain't wrong! Boris can now credibly threaten "No Deal".
DeleteKatya Adler having a little breakdown it seems...
ReplyDeleteKatya Adler (around 00.35); "What EU leaders will also say tomorrow, I am told, they want to underline this ambition for a broad, comprehensive trade deal with the UK after Brexit. They don't believe that can be done in Boris Johnson's timetable. He said he would like to get this trade deal done with the EU by December next year. The EU say to him, if you wanted quick and dirty, fine. But it will be under our rules and that will mean the UK signing up to EU regulations. Where will be the take back control in that?"
DeleteSad...not. One of the worst BBC Liars ever.
DeleteBercow definitely having the worst night of his life...
ReplyDeleteThe exit poll...hahaha. Oh I laughed even though in the end I couldn't bring myself to vote Conservative, couldn't forgive what they put us through since the referendum - traitors and useless to boot; I voted for the Brexit Party even though they won't win the seat - or any seat if it comes to that.
ReplyDeleteWhat a shower the media are - Sky wheeling on Bercow - what the heck? ITV with 'personality' boy Bradby and that catwalk woman mincing around in a black bag with the hem bundled up in her stocking tops, plus obnoxious whiny Osborne and Balls - did the two old muckers come as a job lot?; on the BBC there's an embarrassment of Scots (because Sir Hall decrees more annoying Scots voices on what that wee woman calls the English Broadcasting Corporation) and various weirdos, starting with Vine bouncing around a map like a hyperactive Peter Snow (remember the cowboy hat and boots, anyone?), and a whole night of Red Plaid Huw and that hard voiced yappy yuppy Munchetty; and what is with BBC women as usual in red, notably Kuennsberg - she ought to know better but doesn't care, unlike Sophie who covered her red with a pink coat, though she might as well not have bothered.
Depends which constituency you were in. I would have voted Brexit if I had a candidate to vote for and wasn't convinced the Conservative candidate would see through Brexit.
DeleteLots of these people have a real animus against Boris. That includes Bercow and Bradby. They both hate him.
Lol - I do remember Vine as a rather unmacho cowboy!
Naga v. annoying - it's always about her isn't it - how she's feeling etc...
I don't think the Conservatives can win here - 62% Remain and it's between them and LidDem. Conservatives took it from Ed Davy in 2015 - Boris came here in that campaign - and Libdems got it back in 2017. A new unknown (to me anyway) Conservative candidate this time. More ominously, in the last local government elections the (admittedly dire) Conservative Council was annihilated after a fairly short tenure and the LibDems got back in with a vengeance.
DeleteSerious amount of misery on the Ch4 "Alternative Election Night".
ReplyDeleteBut at I won the game of "Boris letterbox comment faux outrage" bingo (although I was the only one playing)
I forgot to check out Channel 4 - must be a wake! :)
DeleteROLL OF HONOUR - Advancing under lethal fire:
ReplyDeletePriti Patel
James Cleverly
Mark Francois
ROLL OF DISHONOUR:
Jacob Rees-Mogg (nearly f'd up the whole Conservative campaign).
And just to complete the Red Labour cast, who but yappy wee Scot Hazarika in red livery, lamenting that 'we' should have won. 'We' is Labour of course.
ReplyDeleteWished I'd seen her face! Must have been a picture!!
DeleteRight time for a couple of hours kip before all the results roll in, work in the morning - night biasedbbcers.
ReplyDeleteNight night - in for a long stretch but have a Christmas lunch tomorrow so can't do my usual seeing it through to 6am.
DeleteGood night. I've work tomorrow too, so really ought to go to bed. Not quite yet though!
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ReplyDeleteThanks to Marianne for the tip about Channel 4 - it's great! The Alternative Election Night is a left-liberal WAKE!!!
ReplyDeleteJust waiting to hear Nish Kumar speak...
DeleteNope - he just went into manic laughter...
OK back to the main channels...
Hot take from John Simpson, a few seconds ago: "The likely scale of Johnson’s win means that Brexit is now unstoppable, but it’ll be a lot softer than it might have been. The influence of hardline Brexiteers like Jacob Rees-Mogg has evaporated. Brussels will be relieved that Johnson will have the strength to negotiate a deal."
ReplyDeleteHere's Mark Urban: "Time for soul searching in political parties - but also for big media. Has quest for 'gotcha' moments become meaningless? Did the boy in Leeds hospital or BoJo blanking Andrew Neil move the dial in any way? Voters are in their own silos now, social media battleground key".
DeleteMark breaking cover...and then tip-toeing back...
DeleteYes. So nearly there!
DeleteI think we are all allowed a bit of CROW TIME...
ReplyDeleteI'd like to say I supported Boris from Day One (well once he came out for Leave). Never had any doubt about his ability to win. Never believed all the negative propaganda. Supported his leadership bid and said he could get an EU deal. Always thought he was the best Conservative leader to win a General Election.
So I think us Boris Loyalists deserve a pat on the back.
Stephen Pollard: "I am no fan of Boris. But in all honesty it's difficult to imagine Hunt, Javid or Stewart delivering anything even close to this. Yes, Corbyn has been his biggest aid. But this is Johnson's triumph (and, of course, Dominic Cummings)"
DeleteI'd say it's Dominic Cummings' victory. He injected a bit of ideology and populism into the Conservative Party which up to then saw itself as a kind of leaders' club.
DeleteHis popularity terrified then PM David Cameron. I happened to meet him when he was campaigning here - had no idea he was here and nearly walked into him outside the railway station. He exudes amiability and humour combined with a lack of pomposity or stiffness. The eccentric, funny, shambolic and colourful 'character' precedes him and that is a big part of what disposes people to want to meet and talk to him. He's like his father who has a similar easy manner and likeability.
DeleteAgreed - he has a natural connection to people...that was obvious from the way he was elected Mayor twice in London, essentially a Labour fiefdom.
DeleteOh God, Red Huw and Heidi ('compassionate') Allen wittering on about the people. How many parties has she joined? Didn't much care about the people when she campaigned against the result of the referendum.
ReplyDeleteQuite - but don't forget Heidi also told her electors in 2017 that she would implement the result of the 2016 referendum.
DeleteVery annoying that the BBC when formally reporting results still use the T word instead of Conservative...these are official results FFS!
ReplyDeleteYes, that's why the results are called out by the election officials as 'Conservative' and why the screen shows the same. But babblers will babble.
DeleteYay! Alistair Campbell on...
ReplyDeleteClaiming Corbyn is deluded when he is so deluded about the anti-Brexit vote in Labour heartlands...
John Lansman on now on BBC...
ReplyDeleteThey are all in Delusionland.
Think I am about to vomit...Stella Creasy on with baby...She's taken virtue signalling to a new level. "You can't criticise me - I'm holding my baby..."
ReplyDeleteI've just seen that ghastly woman, so full of herself. She's the embodiment of 'me, me, me' mentality.
DeleteExactly! In some ways I feel the virtue signaller non Marxist Labour MPs are far worse than the Corbynites who at least seem to believe in something beyond themselves.:)
Delete"Moderate" Jess Phillips being promoted by the BBC-MSM franchise...
ReplyDeleteThis is the MP who said she wants to have political vetting of ALL candidates for Parliament by the Electoral Commission, to ensure they meet PC criteria.
She is a dangerous extremist.
To use a Kinnockian term, "the most sagacious Marxist of our age" - Paul Mason - states as follows: "I still expect Labour to take seats in the working class areas of southern England" - presumably that's constituencies like Putney and Battersea with probably the highest concentration of millionaires in any constituency in the country! :)
ReplyDeleteWe are getting to the meat now...lots of juicy Labour seats falling up north and in Wales. :)
ReplyDeleteHow could we forget Radio 4? Just heard Alastair Campbell doing duty on there with the two stalwart presenters: James Naughtie and Emma Barnett. Both Labour, I presume. Well I know one is anyway. Mr Naughtie.
ReplyDeleteBarnett I think is the Leader of the PC Virtue Signalling Party...sadly no one can remove her from office as long as the BBC is still there.
DeleteOK - now seems a good time to give my view on the election results...
ReplyDelete1. The first time the Conservatives dip their toe in the waters of populism they do fantastically well. So eff off Gauke, Grieve, Soubry, Wollaston, Stewart and everyone else who dragged down the Conservative Party when they were around.
2. The Conservatives mustn't be lulled into a false sense of security by this result. Until they turn themselves into a truly populist party as opposed to the party of property their victory will never be secure.
BBC analysis: Labour defeat due to Brexit, Corbyn and something else I forget...
ReplyDeleteThey don't mention PATRIOTISM.
I think this has been the killer for Labour. People no longer believe Labour wants a good outcome for our country and have decided they are driven by ideology not love of country.
LibDems have taken back Richmond from Goldsmith and held Kingston and Surbiton with Ed Davey.
ReplyDeleteMr Benn on...he screwed up Labour as much as Corbyn..
ReplyDeleteCorbyn bowing out...who gives a f*** either way.
ReplyDeleteLabour is Labour and has to be defeated as Labour. The only time they got elected in the last 50 years was when they pretend not to be Labour (New Labour).
Make that 40 years...
DeleteHats off to Farage - not sure if he meant to but he played a blinder...feeding in enough Brexit Party votes to deny Labour victories in loads of constituencies.
ReplyDeleteRachel Sylvester on the BBC - she told us numerous times that Boris would never be PM...would never get a deal with the EU...would never win this election...
ReplyDeleteHappy times!
Oh yeah - Swinson kicked out as well...does it get any better?
Rachel says - she wasnt expecting this Conservative majority...she looks like someone has sucked the air out of her...
ReplyDeleteAmazing how the pundits take no responsiblity for their previous 1000 utterances!
Paul Mason on now...usual class, racist etc bollox.
Now blaming the unemployed! lol You couldn't make it up as Littlejohn said.
Huw couldn't be nicer to Paul if he tried!...
Mason says there's no centre / centrists any more: no Soubry (*!), no Gyimah. Hah! No anti-democrats, no Remain extremist fanatics, he should say.
DeleteRight I’m back - time to see what I’ve missed....
ReplyDeleteStraight into an interview with Sturgeon urgghh
ReplyDeleteYes... not a good return for you! lol
DeleteJust having a nightmare...imagined Theresa May was being interviewed by Andrew Neil...oh yeah, not a nightmare - just BBC election coverage...
ReplyDeleteThe “warm” welcome smile was horrific!
DeleteTom Baldwin...yay!
ReplyDeleteStill banging on about the no-way second referendum...
Great to see Remainiacs tying themselves up in knots... :) It's over for the Remainers.
Agreed that was painful!
DeleteNow it’s the turn of Lucas - never understood why being environmentalist makes you uber left wing.
ReplyDeleteIt shouldn't do - the clue's in the etymology: Conservation is Conservative. Many left-wing policies, particularly open borders, are decidedly un-green.
DeleteJust heard Dominic Grieve has lost his seat...the whole body politic is a lot healthier as a result.
ReplyDeleteAyesha Hazareka now pretending she wasn't full-on pro-Corbyn two weeks ago...
ReplyDeleteWowsers my local Tory MP won with a majority of 15,000 in a ex mining town.
ReplyDeleteRespect!
DeleteSadly my constituency is full of millionaires and so obviously voted for Labour-Remain. :)
DeleteFor the many and not the few.... ;-)
DeleteCorbyn's Labour is now officially "For the moneyed, not for you" :)
DeleteWe've suffered Ash Sakar on our screens more or less everyday for the last two years so why the hell haven't seen any of the channels?
ReplyDeleteGina Miller on BBC...looking a bit glum...
ReplyDeleteCraig Oliver - representing the Useless and Weak Tories. He has absolutely nothing to tell us - he was anti-Boris.
Huw Edwards just called Boris a clown and liar in terms! Unbelieavable disrespect for the nation's verdict...
The way Huw back tracked with Gina was embarrassing.
ReplyDeleteWill the BBC accept the result or will they immediately start tomorrow agitating to get it overturned? I think we know the answer...
ReplyDeleteThat's why the Conservatives need to get CLUED UP!
So far the Tory Tally is 0 Clued Up MPs.
Beeb's First step: stir up discontent in NI & Scotland. I expect they'd ideally like to see IRA resume its offensive; as for Scotland, creation of a 'SRA'?
DeleteI don't believe this: Andrew Marr has just criticised the new Tory slogan 'the People's Government'. Mr Marr tells us that, "We don't like that use of 'the people's' - it sounds French." He didn't mind the 'people's vote', though, did he?
ReplyDeleteAnyway, I thought he approved of the French! Must check on what's happened in the seat of Dominic Grieve, Chevalier de la Légion d'Honneur.
DeleteYes, on the subject of Marr and language, see the article in Spiked about language in politics and in particular analysis of an interrupting accusatory Marr 'interview' of Boris in September.
DeleteSteady stream of little barbs from Marr and Edwards eg. (Edwards) "The Express, yet another Conservative-supporting paper." How about "the BBC, yet another Remain-backing a-v medium?"
ReplyDeleteI think it's safe for me to come out from behind the sofa! Prospect of a Marxist Labour - Racist Scottish Nationalist government was truly frightening.
ReplyDeleteLike MB above I was always a Boris backer. A large contributor to my support was from observing the BBC's hatred of him.
I do hope that Boris reforms the BBC. It's a malignant influence on the nation.
Now listening to Today, it's clear that going forward the BBC's attack lines will be about Brexit causing a constitutional crisis with the Scotland and NI and that trade deals cannot be done in any measurable timeframe. I've heard Surgeon's voice more that I've heard Boris so far.
Yes, I've been assessing the BBC's reaction to Boris's landslide victory, though I haven't heard that term used. Andrew Marr and Vicky Young were sheepish, but significantly, Marr said : "we don't know Boris Johnson". Well, Andrew, if you'd let him be heard, you might know better who he is and what he stands for.
DeleteThe second line of criticism was about the breaking up of the Union particularly in Scotland. In the event of Indyref2, the SNP would need to explain to their supporters how they might manage without the £ and the BoE, naval dockyards, shipbuilding and other MoD contracts and what their place in the EU would feel like - being one of the smallest and least significant members of the EU.
It came as no surprise that Labour northern strongholds fell to the Conservatives. Traditions there are for hard work and pride in their communities - best served by enterprise not handouts. The BBC failed to recognise the warnings here, and acted as though they were caught out by a lack of understanding. They even let the idiot in the EU hat with his signs get into the an interview - indicating that their outlook hasn't changed. We are in for an interesting period when the Remain BBC try to shore up its support. We'll see how that plays out.
I notice the BBC are leading their radio bulletins with the headline ‘The biggest Conservative win since Margaret Thatcher’.
ReplyDeleteIs that an honest and sincere strapline or designed to associate Thatcher with those diehard Labour supporters in the northern mining areas who switched?
The trouble with the BBC is that you never know whether it’s genuine or political point scoring.
Just head someone say (didn’t catch who it was) that Johnson won with one simple message ‘get Brexit done’ whereas Labour had a lots of huge policy offers which diluted their message.
ReplyDeleteRubbish excuse for Labour but is that a line the BBC will use?
Over the coming days I expect the BBC to spend their time analysing the loss as they mourn for Labour and No-Brexit instead of focusing on the winner and the opportunities ahead.
Was that on Woman's Hour ? I heard one of the guests there say the same thing (Ash Sarkar ended the piece with 'inshallah'.
DeleteThe squirming postulations they were all making made me chuckle.
Will it ever occur to the Beeboids that, in rejecting their favoured party, the GBP has also rejected them? Nah, such wrongthink would never penetrate the hive of hubris.
ReplyDeleteThe self righteous crew of Barnett, Vine, Simpson, Robinson, Husain, Mardell, Maitlis, Munchetty and Adler will have cried themselves to sleep.
ReplyDeleteBut they wil never learn and so will continue to attack conservative values with their customary liberal wetness.
Nautilus contentious if electorate for voting Boris in
ReplyDeleteTime for BBC to have its forcible taxation under penalty of imprisonment removed and forced to stand on its own too fight
Succession of depressed lefties wheeled out to blame voters "They didn't know what they were voting for !!!"
The Jeremy Vine show trotted out the same old left left wing people today to rubbish the election result.
ReplyDeleteThey were allied to spout their vitriol unchecked by Vine. He showed much sympathy and solidarity with Yasmin Alibhai-Brown.
He even said that those outside London hadn’t listened to the London bubble and wanted to do something else - ‘hadn’t listened’ implied to me that he thought they were voted the wrong way again.