“Good Morning Sarah. Paddy will do.” came the chummy greeting from ‘Lord Ashdown’.
“Do you share Clegg’s view that Israel must talk to Hamas?”
“Yes. The one thing we know now - after three weeks and over a thousand dead - is that neither side can blast their way to victory.”
Well, Paddy, that depends what either side considers victory. Israel might consider it a victory to be left in peace. To exist. Hamas would consider that a defeat. Maybe “blasting” is the only way, for at least one side, to achieve a victory.
“Peace is a process, not an event, and you have to get them round a table.” says Paddy.
I love the way people have to ‘sit down’ in order to achieve peace. Oh, and you need a table. There must be a kit with a table, some chairs and peace.
“Hamas and Islamic Jihad?” says Sarah.
“How are you going to get peace without talking to them? “ says Paddy. “You have to talk to the most unpleasant people. Even the IRA!”
Paddy regards the IRA as more formidable than Hamas and Islamic Jihad put together. More unreasonable, more intransigent, more fanatical. Tiny detail, but I heard the IRA had to decommission before the talking.
“You have to call a spade a spade. Is it disproportionate? yes it is!”
Suddenly he’s on a roll. It’s as if a light has gone on behind those concealed eyes. Maybe he’s about to say things in haste, which, unfortunately, he probably won’t regret at leisure. Here we go.
“Israel makes the excuse that because weapons are being fired from civilian areas it’s entitled to use indiscriminate total force against civilian areas no you’re not. I mean our troops in Afghanistan, in Northern Ireland had this constantly going on, if they’d used total force against the whole civilian area because somebody had fired from it they would have been guilty of a crime. So that’s not an excuse.
Namely, Afghanistan and a spurious analogy between the Taliban firing at British and US troops from civilian areas, and Hamas firing rockets at civilians in Israel; for years? Is Paddy really holding the conduct of ‘our’ troops up - as an example of ‘legality in war’ in comparison to the conduct of the IDF?
Indeed, there is some similarity in the human shield aspect of the analogy-that-isn’t-an-analogy. A small similarity. But what about Obama’s drones? Has Paddy completely forgotten those indiscriminate civilian casualties? Does Paddy disregard Israel’s restraint when we know it has the capability to inflict far worse damage with less risk to Israeli lives?
“I mean here’s the bottom line. To have accidentally, in the course of trying to be careful, to have hit a single UN school and haven, you could put that down to an error in the process of trying to be careful. But to have hit six! Six!! I mean you have to conclude that’s either criminally careless or carelessly indiscriminate.
One UN school = misfortune, six UN schools = carelessness? Civilians ‘deliberately targeted’? By Israel? For no reason? Does Lord Ashdown know whereof he speaks?
“Well,” says Sarah, leaving handfuls of misstatements and inaccuracies unchallenged, “the Israelis are 80% behind their government, so what pressure do you put on Israel?”
“Well,” says Oscar Wilde, “there are levers you could use...”
I suspect he’s hinting that we should boycott, divest and sanction, and America should stop funding and arming Israel. In fact the Lib Dems are pushing to stop UK arms sales to Israel. Incidentally British-made arms were used against Israel in 1967.(Against civilians by the way.)
“Israel’s military action was foolish. They have the best anti-missile system in the world, they have a fantastic civil defence system, they’ve had, from thousands of Hamas rockets, just two civilians killed, they’ve multiplied that to 60 by this operation .....”
Only Two Civilians?
Paddy seems to be saying that because of Israel’s Iron dome and the bomb shelters, Israel’s civilians should endure thousands of rocket attacks while Hamas continues amassing thousands of rockets and burrowing tunnels to their heart’s content. Or until enough Israelis have died.
“.......created hundreds of thousands of terrorists, created the enmity of the entire Middle East, they’ve lost support and sympathy of world opinion. That doesn’t seem to be a good dividend from military action to be honest.
Enmity of the entire Middle East?
No. I don’t believe that is so.
That was Paddy Ashdown behaving like an utter handbag; perhaps not the fault of the Today programme. Does Paddy wield much influence these days? I do hope not.
“There was meant to be a ceasefire in Gaza,” begins Sarah “But Israel has been striking dozens of sites this morning as it continues its search for a soldier it thinks was captured by Hamas militants....” “Both sides blame each other for breaking the ceasefire...”
What was the fault of the Today Programme however, was that with two sound-bite-sized exceptions the entire Middle East coverage this morning was pure pro Palestinian propaganda.
Sound-bite 1: spokesperson for Israel’s foreign ministry promised: “we’re willing to do anything to get our people back. Unlike the Hamas we cherish life and if we know that we have a kidnapped soldier we’ll do anything necessary, whether it’s by force or diplomatic means...”
Sound-bite 2: Obama clip.
The Today programme then consulted the opinions of Palestinian spokesperson Sabri Saydam, former adviser to Abbas and the LSE’s Fawaz Gerges, one of those ubiquitous pro-Palestinian Middle East experts whose hostility to Israel is never spelled out so the listener has to wheedle it out for himself.
Both gents were invited to speculate over the likelihood that all sides would turn up for another peace conference in Egypt with tables and chairs.
Instead, the former delivered a boilerplate litany of grievances and hate-filled rhetoric, after which the latter delivered another litany of grievances and pro Palestinian propaganda. Incidentally, while he was at it Gerges contradicted Paddy’s assertion that Israel has “created the enmity of the entire Middle East.” Sarah didn’t notice.
That 01:35 discussion was a strange one, because it also contained, alongside Palestinian Dr Saydam and pro-Palestinian Dr Gerges, Gershon Baskin from the Israel/Palestine Center for Research and Information in Jerusalem. Gershon Baskin is a veteran Israeli peacenik who favours talking to Hamas - an Israeli voice, but one from well outside the Israeli mainstream.ReplyDelete
At least 'Today' can say that this 'balances' Wednesday's edition of 'Today' which featured Tamar Hermann of the Israel Democracy Institute, Pnina Sharvit-Baruch, former head of the International Law for the Israeli Defence Force and Uri Dromi, former Israeli government spokesman. That had the Israel haters on Twitter going insane about wall-to-wall Israelis and pro-Israeli bias. (Pnina and Uri, in particular, in their different way, put the pro-Israel/anti-Hamas case very forcefully indeed).
Actually I did half hear Gershon Baskin, so maybe I was being a bit unfair with the ‘pure pro-Palestinian propaganda’ comment. But it was Paddy that threw me. He seemed to be talking such inflammatory nonsense that I was incensed. Staggered, I was.ReplyDelete
Of course I didn’t hear all of Wednesday’s edition of Today. I must have overslept; perhaps balance was achieved over time. However I’m stickin’ with my responses to Paddy-will-do.
Can only assume the lack of an Israeli voice was due to Sarahs researchers not wanting to break the Sabbath-or be party to tempting other Jews to do the same.ReplyDelete
Yes-that`ll be it....I`m sure!