Sunday 18 March 2018

Framing the debate



  • Join us at ten from Brighton where with calls from across the political spectrum for a second Brexit vote we ask whether the people should have the final say on the terms of the deal. 
  • Today on The Big Questions, should the people have the final say on the Brexit deal?
  • The debate over who should have the final say over the Brexit deal continues to rumble on. This week the campaign group Best for Britain launched a legal challenge to make the government concede a second vote on Brexit. This comes on top of the private member's bill tabled by the Labour MP Geraint Davies calling for a second referendum on whatever the Brexit deal turns out to be, plus a call from Caroline Lucas, co-leader of the Greens, for a people's poll on the final deal because of its possible effect on Northern Ireland. Last year, Gina Miller's private action against the Government secured the right of Parliament to a final vote on the Brexit deal. But given the ever-changing demographics of the UK, where those who were most likely to have voted for Brexit are being steadily replaced by young people, who overwhelmingly favoured staying in the EU, we ask, "Should the people have the final say on the terms of Brexit?" 

8 comments:

  1. ‘Bit more to the left, Trevor... perfick’.

    https://goo.gl/images/TzoPdr

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  2. I liked the way he, as he said, impartially praised the 16-year old with the colonial accdent for making the 'remain' case!

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  3. And taken with everything else across the BBC, like the remain-heavy panel on Question Time in Dover - Starmer, an Irish MEP and actor Brian Cox vs Chris Grayling - and a chap from RT.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b09wc0lc

    And the next Question Time audience, in Leeds, is confined to the youth - aged under 30: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/5vyK2GwYrdQGFvCJyKNfZhn/join-the-question-time-audience
    More opportunity for pro-remain, anti-government promotion by the BBC.

    Then there's Curtice, a professor on behalf of the BBC helpfully worrying away at the referendum result to see whether people have changed their minds and promoting this on the BBC website as an expert.

    Just a few examples. I expect there's more that I've not seen just as I didn't see the Big Questions today and wouldn't know anything about it if I hadn't read here.

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  4. Even hardcore remain supporter Nicky had claim he was "totally impartial" after his gushing praise for a young remainer who bemoaned the fact that despite her high levels of knowledge and intelligence she was unable to vote for remain as she was only 16. Precisely ! Exclaimed Nicky (totally impartially of course..)

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  5. No question about it, the BBC have spotted an opportunity to foment on the second referendum question.
    They have been increasingly political since Brexit and use the entire output to spread propaganda.

    It’s BBC groupthink at work rather than a planned message sent to editors, journalists and presenters

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  6. I think the latest Remainer/BBC game plan is:

    Get the transition period extended beyond the next election.

    Get Labour to commit to a second referendum which will be (deal v Remain).

    Win the second referendum for Remain.

    Get EU bosses (Merkel-Macron or their successors) to agree to cancel the Article 50 process and allow UK to remain.

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  7. .... But given the ever-changing demographics of the UK, where those who were most likely to have voted for Brexit are being steadily replaced by young people, who overwhelmingly favoured staying in the EU,...

    This is typical of the BBC's wish-list extrapolation. It is just about twenty one months since the Referendum, and Nicky C is seriously expecting us to believe that a significant number of (oldish) Leave voters, sufficient to change the outcome, have dropped off the electoral roll since then. What rubbish!

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    1. Also, note ... "Should the people have the final say on the terms of Brexit?" ... This suggests that the BBC have decided that Parliament cannot be trusted to overturn Brexit. GM's legal action may have backfired.

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