Thursday 16 April 2015

"This audience, which is a remarkable audience even by the left-wing standards of the BBC"


Well, it happened again.

Tonight's BBC One election debate featured a studio audience that appeared to bear little or no resemblance to the electorate it was meant to represent. It appeared to be strongly biased - even by the BBC's usual standards.

The opening discussion saw repeated applause for attacks on austerity and for calls for public spending. The UKIP leader spoke out:
Nigel Farage: There just seems to be a total lack of comprehension on this panel and, indeed, amongst this audience, which is a remarkable audience even by the left-wing standards of the BBC. I mean, this lot's pretty left-wing but...
David Dimbleby (interrupting): Hang on a second, let me just say one thing. This is an audience that has been carefully chosen...
Nigel Farage (interrupting): Very carefully!
David Dimbleby: ...not by the BBC...not by the BBC, by an independent polling organisation to represent the balance between all parties.
Sky News tonight is leading with this intervention, and making out that Mr Farage was "rattled":


I have to say that I thought the UKIP leader may have taken on the BBC audience here deliberately, suspecting, as he indeed went on the say, that "the real audience is at home".

That "real audience at home" will have heard an audience that appeared, through its patterns of applause, (a) to strongly oppose austerity and strongly favour public spending, (b) to oppose the Conservatives' right to buy policy (c), to favour 0% private involvement in the NHS, (d) to want the Tories' trade union legislation repealed and (e) that was very keen to back speakers defending high immigration. 

They'll also have heard an audience that applauded and often loudly cheered attacks on David Cameron and the Conservatives, and that either jeered at or received in stony silence much of what Nigel Farage said. 

Most astonishingly of all, they'll have heard huge applause and wild cheers for Nicola Sturgeon's call for Labour and the SNP to get together and kick out the Tories. 

A representative audience? If so, representative of what? A joint SWP/SNP rally?

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Incidentally, the BBC's own 'worm' showed an interesting reaction from its sample of voters to Nigel Farage's attack on the audience - a somewhat approving one - as posted on the BBC's own live election feed:

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Here's a flavour of some other reactions:
Tim Montgomerie on Twitter: 70% of Britons think immigration is too high. 90% of #BBCDebate audience claps defence of high immigration.
Breitbart London: 20:43  Is the audience balanced???
Format for tonight's debate: BBC Election Debate 20154. There will be a live audience selected by a reputable polling company mainly from the surrounding region. That means they are from London, which is a separate BBC region to the South East (where UKIP is strong). UKIP does not do well in London, it is far stronger elsewhere in England. 
Tim Montgomerie on Twitter: Summary of #BBCDebate: Privatisation. Boo! Public spending. Hurrah! Trident. Yuk. Scotland. Lovely. Right-to-Buy. Boo!
Andrea Leadson, Conservative economics secretary
Appalling left wing bias in BBC audience – not reflecting views of the country. Easy to applaud spending money – shame we don't have any.
Stephen Pollard on Twitter: If this audience is representative of the electorate I'm Natalie Bennett's speechwriter.
James Forsyth on Twitter: I expect Ed Miliband is now wondering about the balance of the audience as it whoops.
Janet Daley, Telegraph: The loser? Nigel Farage – because he completely lost it over the Left-wing bias of the audience (even though he was right, it was truly shocking even by BBC standards).
Tim Montgomerie on Twitter: Although Farage was tactically unwise to criticise the audience some very big questions for the BBC about audience selection #BBCDebate 
Patrick O'Flynn, UKIP: The BBC ought to check that it wasn't skewed because of some systematic bias or failure and ought to be transparent about that - but I'm not saying there was a systematic bias but I think they should check and reassure those viewers who might be unhappy. I don't personally think it's going to to turn into a problem for Ukip, but were I the BBC I would think I'd be feeling a little bit awkward because it clearly seemed to be a very skewed to the left audience actually.

7 comments:

  1. Have you considered for one moment that it was a representative audience? "(a) to strongly oppose austerity and strongly favour public spending, (b) to oppose the Conservatives' right to buy policy (c), to favour 0% private involvement in the NHS, (d) to want the Tories' trade union legislation repealed and (e) that was very keen to back speakers defending high immigration." - these are exactly what people think!

    Try this site, you might surprise yourself!
    http://38degrees.votematch.org/

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    1. I suggest you try another site...in fact, any site with a poll of voters. 35% Conservative, 35% Labour, 14% UKIP, 10% Lib Dems, <6% Green, Plaid Cymru or SNP.

      Representative my arse.

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    2. Wow 38the dungarees well that's me convinced as their totally independent ! oh wait a mo ?whats this ?=
      In reality, the organisation was set up by a group of very wealthy socialists with strong links to the Labour Party. Co-Founder and Director of 38 Degrees, Henry Tinsley, funded the Labour Party through the firm Betterworld. Betterworld has given at least £125,250 to the Labour Party and £5,000 to Ed Miliband’s leadership campaign. Tinsley also gave a four figure sum to the left wing blog “Left Foot Forward”. Co-Founder and Director, Paul Hilder, put himself forward as General Secretary of the Labour Party in 2011 and writes papers for the Fabian Society. Director, Ben Brandzel, described himself in 2009 as “dedicated to the Labour cause” The “independent” legal advice on the NHS campaign came from former Labour MP David Lock QC, who remains Chair of the West Midlands Labour Finance and Industry Group.

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    3. @anonymous 17 April 2015 at 00:36 - EXACTLY - by your numbers, 86% of people are not UKIP. 'people' do not like UKIP or their policies. Get over it. The fact the the audience disliked Nigel Farage WAS REPRESENTATIVE.

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  2. Farage was completely right to challenge the make up of the audience (which bore no relation to any sort of country I could recognise e.g. where points about mass immigration get zero applause but funding HIV patients from abroad does).

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  3. "This is an audience that has been carefully chosen..."

    Indeed.

    From a recent ongoing (until they pull a get-out-of-answering-free stunt) complaint about selective editing and subbing:

    "Our headline was carefully worded and represents what Nigel Farage said"

    That rather sums up the problem.

    The BBC no longer reports; from pre-vetted audiences to post-event edits, it carefully choses and carefully words reality into a world view they believe 'represents' reality.

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  4. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/ukip/11544928/BBC-refuses-to-reveal-debate-audience-despite-Ukip-bias-claims.html

    "ICM did not respond to calls.. & the BBC did not provide a breakdown"

    Trust & transparency writ large. Shsssssh!

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