Saturday 16 November 2019

Hush, ladies, the male feminist is talking


This isn't BBC-related, but I thought I'd share it with you as a Saturday treat...

I suppose I could relate it to the BBC, given that Jolyon Maugham QC - the leading anti-Brexit laywer forever taking Boris Johnson's government to court - has been known to slam the BBC for failing to put him centre-stage and other such self-serving, Lord Adonis-like nonsense, but the real reason I'm posting it is that (despite how disturbing it all is) it made me laugh. 

The main plotline can be summarised as follows: A 'woke' male feminist comes unstuck and flees with his barristers robes between his legs.

The issue is whether schools should let trans girls (i.e. boys) into girls toilets:

Helen Joyce: Literally every single response is - madness. Girls in schools need single-sex toilets (and actually, in the UK it's illegal not to provide them).  
Susanna Rustin: Agree with this & wish this awful trend would stop. I support single-sex toilets alongside gender-neutral for all but it's bordering on abusive to make girls share intimate spaces when they are getting used to menstruation (which means upper primary as well as secondary). 
Jo Maugham QC: No easy answers sadly. Where does a body disphoric F2M teen who has his period go? Schools have to be sensitive, of course, but beyond that? 
Susanna Rustin: To the gender neutral loo which schools can also provide! 
Jo Maugham QC: That may well be the answer, where possible. But it isn't always going to be, is it? 
Miranda Green: Hi there Jolyon. Maybe for just a few mins you cld reflect on what women are telling you of our memories of a difficult, vulnerable stage/aspect of being a young girl, our concern for girls now, and really try to take in what we are saying. 
Janice Turner: It’s extraordinary, Jolyon how you feel entitled to rubbish the experiences of women and girls. You’re actually mansplaining periods! Take a look at yourself. Using the gender neutral cause to argue the protections ALL schoolgirls need should be abolished. 
Hadley Freeman: Hush, ladies, the male feminist is talking and he understands female issues MUCH better than us. 
Kathleen Stock: I don't get presumption that FTM couldn't happily use single sex female loo. Trans-masc teens I know are perfectly fine with that. Their non-trans friends also. It's like weird aesthetic neatness projected by people who aren't trans - for every gender presentation a different loo. 
Jo Maugham QC: I'm out, Kathleen. No offence intended to you. It's not a space where I can contribute.

2 comments:

  1. I'm lost here trying to remember whether transman or transgirl is a woman or a man or a girl or a boy, respectively and what is a trans-masc - that's a new one - and why should it be using a single-sex girls' loo? And why does it matter that trans masc and their non-trans friends - what would they be: girls, boys, it, them, other? - would be happy with that? It's whether girls and their parents are happy with it that must count, surely?

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  2. I'm 52. Never saw this coming. From discussing what ex-miners might do with their lives to where an F2M trans changes their (don't know if that's correct) tampon was not on my conversational horizon.
    Hashtag wankers/

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