Saturday, 3 November 2018

A bet on the Geegees.

What is the BBC saying about Saudi Arabia, arms sales and the grizzly murder of the man they call a 'dissident journalist' who we eventually discovered was a member of the Muslim Brotherhood.


(How do you pronounce Khashoggi?- Is it hard ‘K” or soft ‘H’  - aitch not haitch - and is there supposed to be a hard ‘G’ followed by a soft ‘g’ rather than two soft gees? It’s quite a difficult word to enunciate effortlessly, but hat’s off to the announcers that have mastered a smooth 'Hashog-jee.'

From a position of sheer ignorance, I instinctively feel that’s the best bet (and good luck with Vichai Srivaddhanaprabha.) 

I can’t help seeing parallels between the media's apparent advocacy of an immediate cease-fire and/or an embargo on arms sales to Saudi Arabia because of, a) the murder of Khashoggi and, b) the humanitarian crisis in Yemen and the same media’s attitude to various Hamas/ Gaza/ Israel wars. Immediate cease-fires may not always produce the best outcome, arguably.

I know next to nothing about the Houthi insurgency and I can’t see much information about it in Paul Adam’s ‘explanation’. I understand that Paul Adams is far from impartial in this (or any other) area.

The BBC does provide some info here - circa 2015. Judging from the fact that the Houthis are (or were) known as Ansar Allah (Partisans of God), that they seem to be a spin-off of al-Shabab, and are backed by Iran, one might reasonably wonder if an immediate cease-fire would prolong the suffering of the unfortunate Yemeni population rather than bring it to a decisive end. 

I speak from a position of near total ignorance, rather like various panellists and pundits I’ve heard vehemently opining on the Beeb.

4 comments:

  1. The 26/10 episode of 'Newswatch' looked (at some length) into how exactly Jamal Khashoggi's name should be pronounced.

    I'm still trying to get my head round it.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0bpbnv5/newswatch-26102018

    Here's my best attempt and transliterating it all:

    John Sweeney - Gash-oggy
    Mark Lowen - Hash-oggy
    Bill Hayton - Hash-od-JEE (strong emphasis on last syllable)
    Chris Buckler - Kash-od-Jee
    James Landale - HJ(throat clearing sound)-odjy
    Frank Gardner - HJ(heavy throat clearing sound)-odjy

    Some viewer said, as the victim's friend, she pronounced it Kash-oggy, so that's that.

    Samira Ahmed said "the BBC's pronunciation service differs with its official guidance"...

    ...which is interesting.

    The BBC's pronunciation service recommends the Gulf Arabic rather than the standard Arabic version: HJash (heavy throat clearing sound at the start)-od-jy. And then Samira pronounced it much the same.

    And THAT is pretty much your smooth correct version, Sue! (if you've still got the will to live).

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    1. On this theme, a language professor once calculated that there were more than a million different ways to spell the name of the deceased dictator Ghadaffi using the Roman alphabet. Sounds counter-intuitive until you start going through all the
      orthgraphical opportunities K/Kh/G/Gh/Q/Qu etc

      It's actually been spelt over 100 ways in the media, but I can see how you could generate a million variations, if you started combining elements of these variations with other variartions.

      https://alucinogenado.wordpress.com/2011/08/27/how-many-different-ways-can-you-spell-gaddafi/

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  2. I was also getting extremely annoyed at the reluctance of the UK media, BBC to the fore, to refer to Kashoggi as anything other than a "journalist"...He was a political activist, closely tied to the Muslim Brotherhood. In fact you can't really make sense of the whole sorry tale unless you realise it was not just a political murder but also a calculated insult aimed at enraging Erdogan, another man closely allied to the Muslim Brotherhood. The Muslim Brotherhood clearly represents an existential threat to the corrupt Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.

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    1. So I can take the gaffa tape off as I stand in the driveway?

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