Incidentally, if you were wondering where Andrew Marr's discussion with U.S. Democratic Party pollster Stan Greenberg went next, well here's the answer:
Andrew Marr: Is that kind of very hardline message ringing out across America at the same time?Stan Greenberg: Well, I think it is ringing out in the Republican Party and it's really I think quite important in trying to look at what's happening in America. We do have a story here that we're looking at about the fury at Trump, Donald Trump, talking about registering Muslims.Andrew Marr: He actually wants every Muslim in America to be registered. It's like the Jews in Nazi Germany. They're not actually going to have armbands with red crescents, but we're not far away from that in that kind of thinking, are we?Stan Greenberg: Yeah it's quite crazy, but you should know it's not America. I have a new book as you know, America Ascendant...Andrew Marr: America Ascendant. And in that book you basically argue that America's liberal traditions, as embodied in this case by Hillary Clinton, will be triumphant over the next decade or two.Stan Greenberg: Yes, well I think we're at a tipping point moment right now - a huge growth in diversity and acceptance of multiculturalism, belief that the country's better off being diverse, with an immigrant population. The opposite of what you're seeing with Trump. I think the opposite of what you're seeing in Europe, and it's part of why America...Andrew Marr: And it's an absolutely acid moment for all these Western democracies. We've all become kind of global societies, pulling in people from all around the world. We've grown for that reason. We've got lots of energy from that. But now, this is the first moment when a lot of European countries too are saying "Our borders have got to be closed. Can we carry on with Schengen? Can we carry on with a borderless Europe or is that dream now over?"
